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re: West World Ep. 2 Early Streaming thread HBONow **Spoilers** discussion
Posted on 10/13/16 at 7:53 pm to musick
Posted on 10/13/16 at 7:53 pm to musick
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The original had Roman World, Medieval World, and West World. I think we at least get those parks and possibly more.
Sadly we won't get to see those other worlds.
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Nolan jumped back in, addressing the fan who asked the question.
"You said Roman World and Medieval World, right?"
The fan nodded.
No
This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 7:55 pm
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 8:27 pm to 1BamaRTR
He didn't rule out future world...in fact he left that possibility intentionally open
Posted on 10/13/16 at 8:29 pm to Ace Midnight
I just don't see it at all how y'all do
Posted on 10/13/16 at 10:19 pm to wildtigercat93
Look at it this way : what would be the point of even showing that conversation in the show if not for highlighting that the MiB can do whatever he wants in Westworld?If every guest can do whatever they want, then why even have that scene in the show.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 10:33 pm to Funky Tide 8
Well because otherwise it would look like he's off the grid
Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:30 pm to wildtigercat93
Off the grid in a town full of hosts? Do you really believe what you are saying?
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:00 am to ell_13
Yes?
In the first episode he's running around causing mayhem, made me and I'm sure other people wonder if the company is aware that he's there or if he's there doing his own thing without them knowing. That scene shows that they know he's there.
This is why i hate thread for complicated shows like this, everyone gets so wrapped up in their own personal theories that they start screaming like little kids when someone has a different opinion and if it doesn't happen on the show they have a melt down that the show sucks now because they didn't get what they wanted. Especially in something like this where we have so little to go off of. No one knows shite. There's no reason to be condensending because I disagree.
In the first episode he's running around causing mayhem, made me and I'm sure other people wonder if the company is aware that he's there or if he's there doing his own thing without them knowing. That scene shows that they know he's there.
This is why i hate thread for complicated shows like this, everyone gets so wrapped up in their own personal theories that they start screaming like little kids when someone has a different opinion and if it doesn't happen on the show they have a melt down that the show sucks now because they didn't get what they wanted. Especially in something like this where we have so little to go off of. No one knows shite. There's no reason to be condensending because I disagree.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 12:02 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:53 am to wildtigercat93
To me that scene served 2 points, first was to show that everything in the park is watched no matter how far on the fringe a guest goes and second to make sure we know that in a world full of VIP's, this particular guy is special.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 5:18 am to wildtigercat93
quote:You are so quick and eager to "hate threads for shows like this" that you become critical of even the simple explanations. And then post this melt. How hypocritical of you...
This is why i hate thread for complicated shows like this, everyone gets so wrapped up in their own personal theories that they start screaming like little kids when someone has a different opinion and if it doesn't happen on the show they have a melt down that the show sucks now because they didn't get what they wanted. Especially in something like this where we have so little to go off of. No one knows shite. There's no reason to be condensending because I disagree.
I wasn't trying to be condescending with my questions. I just couldn't tell if you were trolling since the scene seems so obvious. You say it means nothing or it was to show they know where he is (not off the grid???). Show who where he is? A tech? Remember when you said that the guy hardly glanced at the screen and wouldn't be able to notice who the MiB was? Yet you think he can determine exactly where he's at in this huge park?
My point is that you are trying really hard to argue against the simplest and most obvious answer. Which makes this post of yours pretty funny.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 5:26 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 6:45 am to Cooter Davenport
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I stick by my initial impression that what we saw was a memory (reverie) from a past script that she was a part of before she was the madam of the Sweetwater brothel.
Just a thought . . .
If we use the premise that Hopkins is literally attempting to create a sentient being capable of transferring his consciousness in to, one would think his can also transfer his memories.
If this is the case, the "dreams" of the madam (and others) may be repressed memories from when they were really human. The Hopkins' upgrade, with "mistakes," was his first test, along with a key word/phrase to begin the process. The upgrade has been removed, but the word/phrase has been planted, and is being spread from host to host, triggering some type of memory retrieval, being hidden from everyone except the host and the Creator, Hopkins.
So many ways this show can go . . .
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:33 am to wildtigercat93
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They show white hat young guy (forgot his name), in the same scene as they show Delores...who then turns and has what can only be assumed is a revery. At the same time that she is near the young guy which would show that it has to be present day because the reveries weren't invented until recently
This is also a good point you made. The reveries are tied to "specific memories" of past programming and that would be a cool and easy way to jump around timelines. You could be in the present time, and when a guest does a reverie, at that point it could jump back in time without being explicit about it and it would make sense and also allows them to jump around timelines freely without it even being noticed. I am going to be on the look out for reveries when I rewatch it this weekend.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 7:36 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:20 am to Bham4Tide
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If this is the case, the "dreams" of the madam (and others) may be repressed memories from when they were really human. The Hopkins' upgrade, with "mistakes," was his first test, along with a key word/phrase to begin the process.
This is not the case. This has all been explained in the show. They've told us what those dreams (reveries) are - they're memories of past stories that the specific Host was a part of. All of these Hosts have been used in multiple different stories over the years. What we are seeing now is only the most recent story they've been assigned to. The upgrade allowed for limited access to past story line programming. That's how the dreams are bleeding though. The show makes this clear. Has nothing to do with them having been really human in the past. They were not.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:39 am to Cooter Davenport
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This is not the case. This has all been explained in the show. They've told us what those dreams (reveries) are - they're memories of past stories that the specific Host was a part of. All of these Hosts have been used in multiple different stories over the years. What we are seeing now is only the most recent story they've been assigned to. The upgrade allowed for limited access to past story line programming. That's how the dreams are bleeding though. The show makes this clear. Has nothing to do with them having been really human in the past. They were not.
What? Ha. I really don't think we definitively know anything at this point. I saw where someone asked if they dreamed in the last episode - and it was answered that they give the concept of dreams (nightmares) created just in case someone forgets to wipe them out at the end of a maintenance session. Which really means . . . nothing for now. We just don't have enough info. Just bits and pieces.
The only thing "clear" at this point is that nothing is clear. It is all guesswork, intrigue, and just interesting stuff - which makes ANY possibility, um, possible. So, to say that we definitively know, is really not accurate.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:58 am to ell_13
You sound condescending when you ask a poster "Are you listening to yourself?" If you talked like that IRL to a stranger, do you think the other person would not get miffed? A good way not to get called out online is to be more conscientious of what you are typing and the fact there is a real person on the other end of the internet tube.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 8:59 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 9:19 am to Shiftyplus1
quote:Good thing I didn't ask him that, I suppose. The point of my question, "do you really believe what you are saying?" was nothing more than to determine if he was just arguing to argue at this point in the thread about a scene that is obvious to everyone but him.
You sound condescending when you ask a poster "Are you listening to yourself?"
Posted on 10/14/16 at 9:22 am to Shiftyplus1
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You sound condescending when you ask a poster "Are you listening to yourself?" If you talked like that IRL to a stranger, do you think the other person would not get miffed? A good way not to get called out online is to be more conscientious of what you are typing and the fact there is a real person on the other end of the internet tube.
lol
I will say one thing: there was no bickering through two threads until wildtigrcat93 started posting in here.
(besides the ace midnight movie spoiler incident)
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 9:24 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:00 am to Funky Tide 8
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I will say one thing: there was no bickering through two threads until wildtigrcat93 started posting in here.
This is silly. W93 isn't a petty bickerer. It was just a misunderstanding. :rodneyking:
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:02 am to Funky Tide 8
Anyone else notice that the Westworld logo from the William orientation scenes are different? This may lend to the different timeline theory:
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:03 am to wildtigercat93
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I just don't see it at all how y'all do
Because you're ignoring context clues.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:17 am to Bham4Tide
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attempting to create a sentient being capable of transferring his consciousness in to, one would think his can also transfer his memories.
Perhaps that is the ultimate goal. Depending on how the hosts work (e.g. power systems and repair), you may be looking at human vanity at work. Staying forever young and beautiful and perhaps immortal.
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the "dreams" of the madam (and others) may be repressed memories from when they were really human
So, for this to be true, humans that are operating an advanced technological park at some point in the future have access to the memories of frontier people that died nearly 150 years in our past. Is that what you're suggesting?
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