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re: TX does not want to lose Herman to LSU....

Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:04 pm to
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. The Big 12 is so down they will pull that off



The SEC is also conveniently having a down year as well.
Posted by Stud Bud
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:07 pm to
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quote: Well boo fricking hoo Herman has said he wants to stay in TX, so if they fire Strong...I'm a little nervous. I want Jimbo first, but damn...really don't want us to have to fall past Herman to find a coach. Although I do think Gary Patterson would do a helluva job here too.


Oh..I wasn't directing that toward you, but the arrogance of the Longhorns.

"Oh we gotta fire strong before he goes to LSU."

These coaching hires are all about timing.

If Saban would have not been a bitch, and just went ahead to the Dolphins, LSU could have had Meyer or Spurrier, but he messed up the timing. He drug his feet and milked Miami for more money. And I understand he was torn, but you can't tell your employer "you guys wait on me, and let me decide whether I want to remain your coach or not" (meanwhile giving MIAMI more time to sweeten the pot).

LSU's timing is perfect this year because it gives Herman 2 years as a head coach with success whereas he's probably not getting the LSU job last year with only 1 year of coaching experience.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:08 pm to
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I bet talks started back up the second we fired Miles, they don't want to be late to the party and make another underwhelming hire like last time.



He has a $15 million buyout right now. This is crazy talk. Texas made no moves based on what LSU did. Strong is a good coach, and I think he'll do well regardless of what you SEC-biased folks on here say.
Posted by Iron Lion
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:11 pm to
SEC biased? On a SEC message board? What are the odds of that?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:14 pm to
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Carrying off a coach for a home win over a crappy Notre Dame team. Alabama and Ohio State dont do that. Can you guess why?


Texas is trying to build momentum, and that Notre Dame team was considered pretty solid at the time. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Do you remember LSU carrying off their coach after beating an average Texas A&M team? That coach was the coach the very next season.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34442 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:14 pm to
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He has a $15 million buyout right now. This is crazy talk.


To McCombs and the Jamail's $15Mil is nothing...these people don't comprehend mediocrity and irrelevance
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
5277 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:17 pm to
I think Herman wanting to stay in TX and waiting out UT is the biggest issue for LSU. He knows Strong is on his way out in the next couple of years so he can wait it out at UH.

Assuming he truly wants to stay in TX.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20363 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:17 pm to
If LSU hires Herman will there have to be a "Texas clause" in the contract to deter Texas from poaching Herman from us?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:18 pm to
yeah that tx clause is gonna be a 20M buyout, along with half of the barnett shale interests.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:18 pm to
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He knows Strong is on his way out in the next couple of years so he can wait it out at UH


He does? I think you're making this up 100%.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:19 pm to
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To McCombs and the Jamail's $15Mil is nothing...these people don't comprehend mediocrity and irrelevance


Red McCombs is 88 years old, and Joe Jamail passed away.....just FYI. Red McCombs was the genius who said Charlie Strong "seemed more like an assistant coach". He's very out of touch.

Strong is fine if he finishes 8-4/9-3. I know its fun to think about LSU as the center of the college football universe, but its simply not true, especially when it comes to a school like Texas.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:21 pm to
Agree if strong loses both to ok st and ou I think they make the move and get Herman. I am a big Texas fan these next couple of weeks.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11050 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:23 pm to
Tiggerthetooth....you do realize Strong was like their 7th or 8th choice to be coach right? The boosters are almost worse in Austin than they are in BR...politics are strong there. I would not be shocked at all if they pay that 15 mill to get Strong out...IF he struggles some the rest of year. Like someone said, if the Big 12 is down this year and he can't win more than 8 games...ummmmmmmmm
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 2:25 pm
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79358 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:29 pm to
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you do realize Strong was like their 7th or 8th choice to be coach right?
i'm not being argumentative, but who were 2-6, knowing that saban was 1?
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11050 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:34 pm to
Egg...to be honest I would have to go back and look up all the articles regarding the search. I remember coach after coach saying "no" and then they settled for Strong. They fired Mack thinking they could get Saban and it backfired on them big time. All I know is the search committee didn't say...well, lets go get Strong then since Saban said no

They think like us, they think they can get the best of the best...but, it wasn't good timing for UT. That's why they don't want to mess this up with Herman.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34442 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:35 pm to
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Red McCombs is 88 years old, and Joe Jamail passed away


Red knows more about UT than youll ever know...even at 88, and yeah, big Joe is dead, but his family is still heavily involved with UT...come off it with the know it all BS if it doesnt fit your PC narrative
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:36 pm to
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If Texas is 7-6 or better they will keep Strong I dont think they have the balls to fire him if he at least has a winning record.


How much do you want to bet?

You people are high as a frickin' kite if you think Texas will retain a head coach in football who is 18-20 after three seasons. He has to win at minimum 8, and I am more inclined to think the requisite number is 9 or better given the weakness of the conference this season.



This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 5:49 am
Posted by Rhio
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Member since Dec 2013
1327 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:47 pm to
This is why I haven't been so obsessively in love with Herman as the rest of this website. No matter what LSU does, if Texas wants Herman they will get him. He wants to coach at Texas and they have never been completely supportive of Strong. I wouldn't be surprised if they fired a coach that isn't setting the world on fire after two 7-loss seasons.

Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
93810 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:48 pm to
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Herman has said he wants to stay in TX, so if they fire Strong...


I keep seeing people see this.

When and where did he say this?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19181 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:04 pm to
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As far as TOS goes....they are saying that TX is now rethinking not firing Strong, after we fired Miles. They want to see how Strong does the next two weeks (vs Okie State/Oklahoma) and if its a poor showing, watch out. They do NOT want to lose Herman to us. Will be something to watch for sure.


They better keep an eye on USCw too... Herman and his wife are from the Cali. They may decide to make a move too.
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