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Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:06 pm to The Boat
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post 20
Whazzat now?
Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:39 pm to LSUwag
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I am an Alumni and I agree with this. The band has been sliding for quite a few years and it is very noticeable. I really wish that Linda Moorehouse had been promoted when FBW retired. It was a huge mistake. I read in an article today that the University of Illinois band was greatly expanded this year. Linda Moorehouse is their director. Yet another frickup by the LSU administration.
I'm also an alum, and I agree with this take. The fault of any decline ultimately lies with the administration. They changed the way things were run when Wickes retired. This simultaneously drove Linda away and put a separation in place that ultimately hurt the quality of both TGBFTL and the Band Program as a whole. When Wickes ran both programs as a single entity with a single direction and mission, both benefited.
As for Roy, I'm not going to say he's the best director I've seen. However, to compare him to Curley Hallman just shows the absolute ignorance, stupidity, arrogance, and pettiness of many on this board. I know Roy. He's a really good guy, and a serviceable director who stepped up in a bad situation when the school royally screwed up and drove Linda away by insulting her. He didn't deserve to be treated the way he was, and I hope he cleans up in his lawsuit.
I couldn't care less how any of these other guys do over the next year or two. I personally hope there is a clean sweep of the band department and the SOM, with few to none left standing. They can take Alexander with them, if we're lucky. I would love nothing more than for Roy's lawsuit to become the catalyst for real change in the SOM and band department, because they aren't anywhere close to the level they were at when I was in school. Enrollment alone is a pretty good indicator of that. Getting rid of one man, one who actually gave a damn about the marching band and taking care of its traditions, isn't going to fix any of the real problems.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:44 pm to tigerbandlover
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It is down by around 5% overall. Any number of factors, like natural attrition, Roy's departure, and the flood. But 5% is not something to be concerned about imo. If it is indicative of a problem with leadership, time will tell.
Based on that video it is down 10 percent. Considering they have been cutting 75 or more people in recent years, that would be a reduction in available members by 25 percent. That is concerning. Also, blaming the flood doesn't explain the increase in woodwinds at the same time a reduction in brass players. To me it sounds like they filled the lack of brass with woodwinds, who in years past would have been cut. This is definitely a push back against Roy being fired.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:44 pm to tigerbandlover
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:49 pm to mikethetiger
I was never in marching band, but doesn't more woodwinds and less brass equal a less powerful sound? If so, that's not good.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:50 pm to Sev09
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Technically that is MORE leadership experience than Roy had before taking over.
Really....Roy had been teaching at LSU for 14 years and as a high school director for 15 years. Dennis was a high school director in Miami for 2-3 years. His band had 30 members!!
Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:51 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Can we stop with this
As soon as they bring back Neck
Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:05 pm to Sev09
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Umm... Technically that is MORE leadership experience than Roy had before taking over. Roy was always an assistant before taking over as the director.
First off, you are wrong about Roy's experience as a director. Second, as someone who knew Roy briefly and likes him, I can safely say he isn't anywhere near the class of director that Wickes or Morehouse were and are. It is unlikely that Llinas is, either. The fact is, teachers of that caliber are hard to find, and we don't seem to have any currently on staff at LSU.
The band programs are in the shape they are in now because of very poor management from higher up. Until that changes and a truly great director is hired to rebuild these programs, don't expect much to change below the surface. Maybe that's enough for the casual fans and more recent former band members, but for those of us who can remember when the SOM enrollment was well over 500 students every year, and both the Wind Ensemble and TGBFTL were consistently GREAT, LSU's music programs are currently a shell of their former selves.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:17 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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I was never in marching band, but doesn't more woodwinds and less brass equal a less powerful sound? If so, that's not good.
Yes. Definitely. A college marching band is a lot more powerful with more brass than woodwinds. Woodwinds help round out the sound, but the power is from the brass instruments. Ohio State doesn't even have woodwinds in their marching band.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:40 am to Sev09
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Umm... Technically that is MORE leadership experience than Roy had before taking over. Roy was always an assistant before taking over as the director.
Try reading carefully. It's a rewarding experience.
I'm not defending RK. I've said before, nice guy and unqualified to be head man. The decline on his watch was real and noticeable.
I'd like to see a real nationwide search done to bring in a director who has had success at the major-university level.
LSU deserves that. Whether or not it happens is a matter of will--or lack thereof--in high administration.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 7:25 am to LSUGrad9295
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Lol...what a dim-witted statement all the way around. You are talking about the band director like its the position of head football coach. The "open up the vault" phrase is overplayed on this board anyways, and I especially don't think it applies to the position of band director. When does a university president go out of his way to find a band director?
You don't know your history, do you?
The LSU band is such an important face of the university that a governor hired the very best director possible.
I'll leave you to do your own research. It will do you good.
You're pretty dumb, aren't you?
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:40 am to timlan2057
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The LSU band is such an important face of the university that a governor hired the very best director possible.
Yeah, like 90 years ago. Times have changed slightly since then....Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:50 am to Sev09
Llinas looks like Fidel Castro with that beard
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:31 am to Irish LSU Fan
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Irish LSU Fan
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you don't know Llinas like I know him.
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talking to him several times and watching him interact with others
Stop. Just stop.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 11:32 am
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:05 am to TigerNlc
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Those guys look light in the loafers.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:13 am to Sev09
I heard from a band member that their first show is about New Orleans. Maybe featuring some New Orleans kind of music? That kind of show has been done in Tiger Stadium many times over the years and it is usually...blah 
I also heard that the 550 member Jacksonville State band is performing a patriotic show they intend to also perform at the 75th anniversary of Pearl Harbor in Hawaii. Can't wait, looking forward to these halftime shows in Tiger Stadium.
I also heard that the 550 member Jacksonville State band is performing a patriotic show they intend to also perform at the 75th anniversary of Pearl Harbor in Hawaii. Can't wait, looking forward to these halftime shows in Tiger Stadium.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:24 am to Irish LSU Fan
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I heard from a band member that their first show is about New Orleans. Maybe featuring some New Orleans kind of music? That kind of show has been done in Tiger Stadium many times over the years and it is usually...blah
If it's not from West Side Story, it's an improvement.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:38 am to Smalls
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If it's not from West Side Story, it's an improvement.
Before you say stupid shite, maybe you should know something about the subject. Try reading about how many award West Side Story has won over the years, the number of times it has been revived on Broadway, etc. Also, the music was written by Bernstein....maybe one of the greatest musical wonders of the modern world.
LINK
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:48 am to Irish LSU Fan
So you enjoyed the West Side Story show two years ago?
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