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How would Babe Ruth fare in the steroid era?
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:37 pm
What kind of numbers would he put up?
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:42 pm to Les Miles Lunchbox
89 homeruns/year
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:44 pm to Les Miles Lunchbox
Does he have to play against non whites?
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:49 pm to Les Miles Lunchbox
If you literally dropped a prime Babe Ruth into today's era, I don't even think he'd be an MLB worthy player.
And I think Ruth is the GOAT, fwiw.
And I think Ruth is the GOAT, fwiw.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 1:57 pm to shel311
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If you literally dropped a prime Babe Ruth into today's era, I don't even think he'd be an MLB worthy player. And I think Ruth is the GOAT, fwiw.
Wait what??? Gotta be a troll
I get an argument regarding fitness today vs previous but if he played today he'd have today's fitness. Plus baseball is so much hand eye coordination which is purely natural skill that would translate regardless of era
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:00 pm to shel311
Is there any doubt that babe would have been doing Lyle alzedo amounts of roids?
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:01 pm to Adam Banks
quote:Yea, no chance.
Wait what??? Gotta be a troll I get an argument regarding fitness today vs previous but if he played today he'd have today's fitness. Plus baseball is so much hand eye coordination which is purely natural skill that would translate regardless of era
You think the guys was facing in 1920 were 1/100th as good as players today?
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:02 pm to Les Miles Lunchbox
The Babe is, sure, one of the best rye whiskey drinkers of all time, but how would he fare in this new Fireball era?
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:03 pm to poochie
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Is there any doubt that babe would have been doing Lyle alzedo amounts of roids?
As far as baseball fans are concerned, no baseball player has every cheated before 1996. No one ever used any PEDs before then, no corked bats, no Vaseline, etc etc. all choir boys until the steroid era tainted baseball forever
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:08 pm to shel311
The better question is if you put the roid Era guys back in the 1920s with the old ways of training...instruction...nutrition etc...what numbers would they have put up? I doubt many would come close to the Babe.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:11 pm to Les Miles Lunchbox
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What kind of numbers would he put up?
is he drinking before games still in this scenario?
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:13 pm to Les Miles Lunchbox
If an NFL lineman from the 60s stepped out of a time machine today, he'd have no chance simply because he'd be too small.
Baseball is different in that it is all skill, things that can be learned or adjusted to. If Ruth or Mays or another great stepped out of a time machine today, they'd be amazed at the depth of today's pitching, but would be fine after a period of adjustment.
Baseball is different in that it is all skill, things that can be learned or adjusted to. If Ruth or Mays or another great stepped out of a time machine today, they'd be amazed at the depth of today's pitching, but would be fine after a period of adjustment.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:15 pm to Master of Sinanju
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Baseball is different in that it is all skill, things that can be learned or adjusted to. If Ruth or Mays or another great stepped out of a time machine today, they'd be amazed at the depth of today's pitching, but would be fine after a period of adjustment.
sure baseball may be different in some regards, but training methods, weigh lifting, youth leagues, etc are far better now. Athletes, as a whole, are just a different specimen than they were in the 1920s
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:17 pm to Adam Banks
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I get an argument regarding fitness today vs previous but if he played today he'd have today's fitness. Plus baseball is so much hand eye coordination which is purely natural skill that would translate regardless of era
Yeah this is what I came to say. He was 6'2'', 215 lbs so good size. The gift to be able to see the ball so well is something the game selects out for more than any other skill, and he obviously had that in spades.
I don't know how good he'd be but I think he could play. If you have extraordinary hand-eye coordination you can put the bat on any speed of pitching. He'd just need to see it enough times.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:21 pm to lsufball19
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sure baseball may be different in some regards, but trainintrainingsg methods, weigh lifting, youth leagues, etc are far better now. Athletes, as a whole, are just a different specimen than they were in the 1920s
Your average player is better today, no doubt. But a GOAT level player of the past would still be productive today, after acclimating to today's pitching.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:32 pm to shel311
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If you literally dropped a prime Babe Ruth into today's era, I don't even think he'd be an MLB worthy player.
And I think Ruth is the GOAT, fwiw.
Whoa lets pump the brakes here . I get the spirit of what you're saying, and he wouldn't be the Babe Ruth we know, at least at first. However he also isn't going to be worse than Colby Rasmus either
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:33 pm to Master of Sinanju
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But a GOAT level player of the past would still be productive today, after acclimating to today's pitching.
possibly, if said athlete had grown up in this era. but if you just threw them into an MLB game, they're missing years of development players of today had.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:34 pm to shel311
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If you literally dropped a prime Babe Ruth into today's era, I don't even think he'd be an MLB worthy player.
They had some all-stars try to take batting practice with an actual Babe Ruth bat and they could barely get their swing around to hit the ball...the bat was so heavy.
So unless you can prove that Walter Johnson and the like were throwing so much slower back then, your assertion isn't really based on anything but assumption of time.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:43 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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So unless you can prove that Walter Johnson and the like were throwing so much slower back then, your assertion isn't really based on anything but assumption of time.
they were. there is actually a documentary on netflix called Fastball that goes through the history of different best fastball pitchers of their time. Walter Johnson is specifically documented. Johnson was actually the first pitcher to ever have his pitch speed measured
"In 1917, a Bridgeport, Connecticut munitions laboratory recorded Johnson's fastball at 134 feet per second, which is equal to 91.36 miles per hour (147.03 km/h), a velocity which was virtually unique in Johnson's day,"
While that number is probably not exact, one would at least surmise that pitchers of his day, on average, were considerably slower than today. If Johnson was the fastest throwing pitcher, clocking in at 91 MPH, imagine what an average pitcher was throwing
This post was edited on 8/15/16 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 8/15/16 at 2:48 pm to Les Miles Lunchbox
I'll go with a 21-8 record and 3.33 ERA during the middle of the steroid era if he were pitching.
Just felt like answering the question a little differently. It's so long ago and obviously a difficult comparison.
Just felt like answering the question a little differently. It's so long ago and obviously a difficult comparison.
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