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re: speaking in tongue? WTF
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:17 pm to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:17 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I'm not Catholic. And if you knew anything about the sausage making that went into choosing what books to put into the "Bible", you wouldn't be so quick to pronounce that it was full of absolute truths.
Yeah, that's why the whole concept of non-denominational is just silly to me when you take into account the history of Christianity and what actually happened during the Reformation.
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Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:19 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Wars were fought over their differences, but modern-day "hippy Christians" are just "like cool with all of that, man".
Technically they were fought over the same reasons wars are always fought. Power and wealth and territory. Religion is just a useful excuse.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:21 pm to Mo Jeaux
the church in which I grew up in, absolutely hated Catholics and absolutely believed they were false prophets and would burn in hell
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:21 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I find it funny that you so forcefully view Catholics and Protestants as being so fundamentally similar
I don't think they are though...they are just the most common Christian denominations.
I was loosely raised Catholic as a child. Guess if I would have gotten confirmed I would have gotten to take the "hate the Protestants and other Christian denominations cause they are actually going to hell" class.
My grandmaw was a devout Catholic....mass every Sunday, sang in the choir..and made us go with her if we stayed with her. Her kids raised Catholic.
My grandpa....was Baptist. While my grandmaw went to mass every Sunday...he went to his church every Sunday, arriving very early so he had time to sit quietly and read his Bible before the sermon.
They were married over 60 years before they both died and very devoted to one another. Maybe I just saw their relationship growing up and saw how you can love and serve the Lord in different ways...and still end up in the same place when your time on Earth is done.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:23 pm to Salmon
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the church in which I grew up in, absolutely hated Catholics and absolutely believed they were false prophets and would burn in hell
Oh yeah, there are quite a few evangelical groups that view the Catholic Church as the Whore of Babylon and very much "not Christian".
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:24 pm to jrodLSUke
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quote:quote:?
Wait....do Catholics really believe that non-Catholic Christians(that believe that Jesus is their Lord and Savior, still believe in the trinity and death and resurrection) are going to hell just because they are not Catholic?? Seriously
Certainly not. You know this, nurse.
Yup! New hippie Pope said even folks who picked the wrong religion can get into heaven. Sounds like heaven is getting less exclusive.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:24 pm to LSUfanNkaty
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Holy shite! 
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:31 pm to LucasP
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Yup! New hippie Pope said even folks who picked the wrong religion can get into heaven. Sounds like heaven is getting less exclusive.
Sounds like he's saying God makes that decision. Crazy, huh?
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:34 pm to AUveritas
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Sounds like he's saying God makes that decision. Crazy, huh?
Kind of contradicts what God said in the Bible, though (and also what the Church said for a substantial portion of its history).
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:35 pm to AUveritas
I'm not sure exactly what he was saying, I don't speak Latin. But I do know that a lot of talk radio people were pissed off about it.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:38 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Kind of contradicts what God said in the Bible, though (and also what the Church said for a substantial portion of its history).
Not really. St. Paul was pretty clear about the place of natural law and how those people who weren't Christians would be judged.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:39 pm to AUveritas
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Not really. St. Paul was pretty clear about the place of natural law and how those people who weren't Christians would be judged.
You mean the guy who never met Jesus and expressly contradicted what Jesus said? Cool.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:42 pm to Mo Jeaux
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You mean the guy who never met Jesus and expressly contradicted what Jesus said? Cool.
First, St. Paul did meet Jesus according to Christian belief. He was converted due to that experience. Secondly, bad exegesis doesn't equate to contradiction.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:43 pm to AUveritas
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exegesis
I learned a new word today, thanks.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:45 pm to AUveritas
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First, St. Paul did meet Jesus according to Christian belief.
That's nice.
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Secondly, bad exegesis doesn't equate to contradiction.
But who says it's "bad"? That's the point I'm trying to make. Over a thousand years of Church history says that your exegesis is "bad", but now suddenly it's OK? For certain "absolute truths", there sure as hell is a lot of variation.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:49 pm to Mo Jeaux
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But who says it's "bad"? That's the point I'm trying to make. Over a thousand years of Church history says that your exegesis is "bad", but now suddenly it's OK? For certain "absolute truths", there sure as hell is a lot of variation.
First of all, I haven't practiced any exegesis in this thread, so calling it "bad" is simple arm waving. I'd appreciate some specific instances of Pauline theology being contradictory to Christ's teachings contained in the Gospels.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:49 pm to LucasP
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quote:First, theologically, it's not really possible unless you're a deconstructionist. And, if you're a true deconstructionist, you more than likely wouldn't be Christian at all. Secondly, it is the new marketing ploy for these mega churches so they can attract the new, deconstructionist, "I'm not like those other people", hipster-type people.
Typical lawyer, playing semantics with religion. You can't file a motion to get into heaven Sabi, give it up.
LLLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLL
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:52 pm to Salmon
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the church in which I grew up in, absolutely hated Catholics and absolutely believed they were false prophets and would burn in hell
Without the Catholic Church Christianity would never have survived and thrived. The Catholics did the legwork of conquering, subjugating and converting pagan peoples. By the time the Protestants came around all you had to do was offer a different flavor of the same thing essentially.
If anything the Protestants should be thanking the Catholics for ensuring they had somewhere to start from.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:54 pm to SabiDojo
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the whole concept of non-denominational
I love the, "I just don't believe in denominations, they are petty" line. Every non-denom church is just a denomination starting out. If the churches of Bethanyrockpraise or healinplaceatmbanginterns spread far and fast enough they will become "denominations" themselves in the eyes of prod Christendom. They just haven't sold enough people on prosperity gospel to make that happen yet.
Any non-denoms really think Luther set out to make a one congregation Lutherans and Calvin set out to make one congregation of Calvinists? They all rebelled from one line of thinking and formed multiple groups of like minded rebels until they became known as a denomination.
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:54 pm to fr33manator
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