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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:21 am
Posted by uway
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:21 am
On a complete home remodel. What would you do re: tech, wiring, insulation, etc vs what a joe blow small town contractor will do if left to his own devices?

Also, any opinion on Sensi vs Honeywell smart thermostats?

What else am I not thinking of?

Thanks
Posted by Breauxsif
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:25 am to
Do you require VPN access to remotely work from home?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:25 am to
Walls with outside exposure, I would definitely insulate - at least consistent with an overall plan - R19 or whatever they put in walls today. I wouldn't be as concerned with interior facing walls unless you want some acoustic management.

Personally, I would wire the entire house with Cat 6 or Cat 7 whatever you can make work on your budget, mark them well and tie them into a switch near your router - and 2 drops per bedroom or other general use room/place where technology will be used. Wires may be hokey and old fashioned, but far more reliable than the wifi radiation we're all drowning in now.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:27 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:43 am to
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Do you require VPN access to remotely work from home

Yes
Posted by WavinWilly
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:01 am to
quote:

What would you do re: tech, wiring, insulation, etc vs what a joe blow small town contractor will do if left to his own devices?


Not gonna comment on insulation or load carrying wires, but I would run conduit to every wall with pull strings inside. Pretty much anywhere I could put a TV, a computer, an access point, or any other IP based device. I would also go ahead and run Cat6 and Coax. Have them all terminate in a closet in a home-run or star configuration.

With the conduit and pull strings in place already you don't have to worry about fishing crap through a wall.

I'd also consider this for surround sound with multiple zones.
Posted by whodatdude
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:03 am to
In-wall surge protection in each room that has sensitive electronics, as well as GFCI and AFCI outlets. Alternatively, you can get a stand alone surge protector/power conditioner, which provides filtration and coverage from spikes through coax.

Adding on to what Ace said, use Solid Cat6 for in-wall installation, rather than stranded or UTP.

Just a couple of ideas
Posted by BIGDAB
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:11 pm to
My home was a complete remodel before I bought it. The previous owner had his shite together, everything terminates in a central location in a hall closet. Made my life so much easier when I cut the cord. I got rid of DTV, replaced their dish with an OTA, and connected the coax to the hub in the closet.

Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:33 pm to
For each electrical box I'd install newer models of outlet that include USB female terminals for charging peripherals.

For every switch I'd make sure I included dimmable functionality on each one.

I'd pull Cat 6 through the walls. I'd also pull it to the bathrooms, the patio and the garage. I'd run speaker wire throughout.

I'd also install in-wall suction for vacuuming.

Someone already suggested in-wall surge protection. Outlets nowadays are also capable of Z-Wave device/Alexa built in controls, too.

Just off the top of my head...
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 2:02 pm to
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Coax.


I forget about coax (it is the 21st Century )- but it does make a lot of sense to run it to, for the option of distributing digital OTA signals.

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conduit to every wall with pull strings inside


This is great for future proofing - but some folks don't have the budget space for conduit AND wiring - particularly the good stuff. If you can swing it, though, swing it.

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I'd also consider this for surround sound with multiple zones.


I think this is less of a big deal - with everyone trying to come out with a Sonos fighter, music is a much lower density stream, vice video, and can be managed over the wireless spectrum in the future - IMHO. Obviously, it is an option for those who want/desire a home literally wired for sound.

I also agree with the outlets with built in female USB - Douglas Adams' dream of a universal power supply appears to be here in the form of the venerable USB plug. Also, some sort of surge/power conditioning option can be built in the wall outlets, GFCI, etc., although I would almost prefer a whole house solution for that - if feasible.

This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Outlets nowadays are also capable of Z-Wave device/Alexa built in controls, too. Just off the top of my head...


Yeah - home automation wiring would be the next thing down on the list, if that's a desired outcome for the OP.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 4:13 pm to
When I built my house I put a couple of PVC pipes running from my attic to where all my entertainment shite is in the living room. It comes in handy when you want to run a new wire through the wall.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:02 am to
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Adding on to what Ace said, use Solid Cat6 for in-wall installation, rather than stranded or UTP


Um, its damn near impossible to find stranded cat6 cable other than in patch cords.
UTP cable stands for "unshielded twisted pair", and shielded cable is absolutely unnecessary in a house. So I'm not sure what you are trying to say here other than install some normal cat6 cable.
Also there is no such thing as cat7 cable in the US. There are a couple companies that call their cable cat7 but there is no standard for it so its all a marketing ploy. But AV companies eat that shite up.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 11:05 am
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 7:10 am to
For all data & CATV outlets I would put what we call 3/4" smurf pipe ( goggle it) from the box to an accessible place in the attic. Then run what ever cabling you want. As fast as technology changes, you may want to add or change something sooner than you think.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

I'd also install in-wall suction for vacuuming.


Do people actually use this? Is it much better than spending that money on a nice vacuum?
Posted by MikeBRLA
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/6/16 at 11:33 am to
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Do people actually use this? Is it much better than spending that money on a nice vacuum?


Yes. It's much quieter than a traditional vacuum since the motor is in another room (usually the garage). You can vacuum without disturbing anyone in the house.
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