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re: Normandy Church Terror: ISIS Slits Throat of Preist and Takes Nuns Hostage
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:06 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:06 pm to Pettifogger
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That said, the ideal is if we can help out some number of vetted women/children/families who are looking for our way of life.
Here's another issue with bringing them here, mainly that we don't need them. For starters we don't have enough jobs for the people we have here now. Secondly, what sort of job skills would these refugees have? Would they even be employable? What we don't need is tens of thousands more people here sucking off the government teet when we are already almost $20,000,000,000,000 in debt today.
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:07 pm to Salmon
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but that wouldn't work now
I still don't see how you can say that.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:11 pm to Darth_Vader
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I still don't see how you can say that.
in today's world, with the internet, I don't see how you think we could eradicate an ideal as popular as Islam
just like with the black culture today, to effectively crush this ideal, it will have to come from within the muslim communities
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:14 pm to VetteGuy
Dead on Vette ! 
I say capture all the radicalized we can. Round them up and take them up, one group at a time, in a C-130 over their preferred desert country in that freaking a-hole of the world known as the Middle East.
Start the camera rolling, drench them in pigs blood and kick them out the ramp from about 9,000 ft to splatter on the desert below.
Send the film to every major news outlet in the world with the message that this will continue as long as ISIS chooses to continue it's ways.
Sit back and see what happens.
I say capture all the radicalized we can. Round them up and take them up, one group at a time, in a C-130 over their preferred desert country in that freaking a-hole of the world known as the Middle East.
Start the camera rolling, drench them in pigs blood and kick them out the ramp from about 9,000 ft to splatter on the desert below.
Send the film to every major news outlet in the world with the message that this will continue as long as ISIS chooses to continue it's ways.
Sit back and see what happens.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:20 pm to Salmon
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in today's world, with the internet, I don't see how you think we could eradicate an ideal as popular as Islam
just like with the black culture today, to effectively crush this ideal, it will have to come from within the muslim communities
The answer is simple, but sadly too brutal for most to stomach nowadays. To ensure there are no more Islamic terrorist attacks here we simply have to remove them from our presence. Is that fair to everyone? No. But short of killing them all, it's the only answer. I'm sorry but it just is.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:38 pm to Darth_Vader
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Here's another issue with bringing them here, mainly that we don't need them. For starters we don't have enough jobs for the people we have here now. Secondly, what sort of job skills would these refugees have? Would they even be employable? What we don't need is tens of thousands more people here sucking off the government teet when we are already almost $20,000,000,000,000 in debt today.
I don't really care.
Not to be dismissive, but I'm not going to be too concerned with the economic impact of helping out a few thousand people truly in dire need. Disperse them throughout the country (no enclaves!) and I almost guarantee you they'll find something to do.
Do you know a lot of Middle Eastern or North Africans who just sit around all day? Because I certainly don't. In Europe, where they have neighborhoods full of people from the same part of Aleppo, that may be more of an issue. Here, far less so, IMO.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:39 pm to Darth_Vader
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To ensure there are no more Islamic terrorist attacks here we simply have to remove them from our presence. Is that fair to everyone? No. But short of killing them all, it's the only answer. I'm sorry but it just is.
its also impossible
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:41 pm to AUTimbo
One of the ways to kill off jihadist terrorism is to cut off the money and logistical support from sovereign countries - often our allies (looking at you, Saudi Arabia). If I was president I would get on TV and say to these leaders, "You live a very pampered life. You drive around in big, fine cars. Live in mansions beyond your own people's comprehension. You have beautiful women at your disposal. You want for nothing.
The next terrorist action that occurs where an American citizen is killed, I'm going to kill you. I don't care if you're complicit or not, you will be killed. I'm not going to bomb some remote facility. I am going to kill YOU. Now, think about that and decide whether you want to continue aiding and abetting these thugs."
How much you wanna bet the support would dry up post-haste?
The next terrorist action that occurs where an American citizen is killed, I'm going to kill you. I don't care if you're complicit or not, you will be killed. I'm not going to bomb some remote facility. I am going to kill YOU. Now, think about that and decide whether you want to continue aiding and abetting these thugs."
How much you wanna bet the support would dry up post-haste?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:44 pm to Darth_Vader
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For starters we don't have enough jobs for the people we have here now.
Yes we do. Why do you think illegals are coming here in droves? Refugees will "work the jobs that Americans won't" and will get welfare, too. (Illegals get welfare, too, but that's another thread.)
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:51 pm to stelly1025
Where can I find the video of the throat slashing?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:52 pm to Salmon
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its also impossible
Not really. At least not to the point where the threat is lessened to a great extent. As Petty just mentioned, the problem is these "enclaves" they establish. Instead of moving in and integrating into the community as a whole they instead take over one section of a town, keeping among themselves and establishing their own little Islamic colony of sorts. This is far more advanced in Europe right now but if Hillary gets her way, we will have the same issues here in the US shortly.
These "enclaves" are the breeding grounds of terrorists and why Islamic immigration is different from any other immigrant group we've seen in the past. The sad truth of the matter is their culture is diametrically opposed to our own and the majority of them have no interest in adopting our culture but rather replacing it with their own.
Look at it this way. Say you met a homeless guy with a family and you let them move into your home to help him out. Once they get set up you discover that he wants to kick you out and make your house his own or at the least make you live by his own rules if he allows you to stay. Would you move out let him take your home or force you to live by his rules? That's what we're facing with Muslim immigration and why it's different from all immigrant waves we've ever seen.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:56 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Having worked in Saudi for a couple of years I know that would have quite the effect on the power brokers there.
They LOOOOOVVVVEEEEE those Western goods and living that Western lifestyle, albeit unknown to the masses.
It's a shame I didnt have a crystal ball back then. Could have probably found a way to take Bin Laden out before he started all his crap... Especially since his beach house was less than three miles down the road from our villas.
They LOOOOOVVVVEEEEE those Western goods and living that Western lifestyle, albeit unknown to the masses.
It's a shame I didnt have a crystal ball back then. Could have probably found a way to take Bin Laden out before he started all his crap... Especially since his beach house was less than three miles down the road from our villas.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:57 pm to Darth_Vader
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Not really. At least not to the point where the threat is lessened to a great extent.
yes really
if the US started deporting muslims we would have a mass conversion of muslims to christians all of a sudden
kinda like the gun arguments here, criminals are not going to obey the rules and the only people you end up hurting are innocent people
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:03 pm to Darth_Vader
Darth, serious question. How many muslims do you interact with on a day to day basis?
are you talking about muslims in general? who exactly?
I'm pretty sure that's been said about the Mexicans and irish too.
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he sad truth of the matter is their culture is diametrically opposed to our own and the majority of them have no interest in adopting our culture but rather replacing it with their own
are you talking about muslims in general? who exactly?
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Look at it this way. Say you met a homeless guy with a family and you let them move into your home to help him out. Once they get set up you discover that he wants to kick you out and make your house his own or at the least make you live by his own rules if he allows you to stay. Would you move out let him take your home or force you to live by his rules? That's what we're facing with Muslim immigration and why it's different from all immigrant waves we've ever seen.
I'm pretty sure that's been said about the Mexicans and irish too.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:04 pm to Salmon
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if the US started deporting muslims we would have a mass conversion of muslims to christians all of a sudden
Simple solution, tell them it's too late to "convert".
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:04 pm to stelly1025
Was the church full of people? How the frick did two people with knives get away with this shite this long? Was the place empty? Did anyone do something?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:05 pm to Walt OReilly
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Where can I find the video of the throat slashing?
I hope t his isn't out there...but if so, damn that's sad.
What's the latest on this? Are nuns actually still being held hostage? Is this an active situation?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:09 pm to Salmon
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certainly and we do that pretty regularly, no?
I'm sure. But we are also letting a lot of them roam free, knowing good and well they are inches away from shooting up a mall.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:10 pm to cas4t
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But we are also letting a lot of them roam free, knowing good and well they are inches away from shooting up a mall.
so this is advocating thought policing
I'm just not ready to give up liberties for "safety"
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:10 pm to Cdawg
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Darth, serious question. How many muslims do you interact with on a day to day basis?
Daily basis? None. On a semi-regular basis every few days or weeks? Three. And they're as nice as can be. But that's the problem. There is no way of telling good ones from terrorists. They can grow up here, seem quite "moderate", nice, and normal then one day drive a truck into a crowd of kids or walk into a Christmas party and start mowing people down with an AR just like that.
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