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Construction Management redux.....
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:04 pm
I am bringing this topic up again because I had such good responses from some helpful posters last time around and I forgot to ask an important question.
I was wondering if anyone here knew anyone that transitioned from Post Bac construction management to Masters? If so, was it difficult? Did you still have to take the GRE and did you have an entirely different bachelors degree other than Eng, Arch, or CM?
Do you have to have relevant experience in order to apply?
Kujo, did you know anyone? Texas Tiger, King Bob? Any knowledge? Thanks....
I was wondering if anyone here knew anyone that transitioned from Post Bac construction management to Masters? If so, was it difficult? Did you still have to take the GRE and did you have an entirely different bachelors degree other than Eng, Arch, or CM?
Do you have to have relevant experience in order to apply?
Kujo, did you know anyone? Texas Tiger, King Bob? Any knowledge? Thanks....
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:08 pm to Manored77
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I was wondering if anyone here knew anyone that transitioned
Good luck on your journey.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:19 pm to Manored77
FWIW, as a contractor who hires LSU CM students on a yearly basis I can tell you that kids who chose to spend their time and money to get a Masters in CM instead of going to work after their bachelor degree fall to the bottom of my list.
If you're a good employee your employer will pay for you to get a masters degree somewhere down the line when you can actually put it to use with your job.
If you're a good employee your employer will pay for you to get a masters degree somewhere down the line when you can actually put it to use with your job.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:19 pm to Manored77
People ask Kujo for expertise on something?
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:36 pm to Manored77
If you get a CM degree, you don't need a masters. All it is for is a piece of paper to hang up. I know several who got theirs from Auburn after attending LSU and it didn't really do anything for their career.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:03 pm to Manored77
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Manored77
Where do you live?
I know a few guys that went to Oklahoma State in Okmulgee, OK and got an associates in Construction Management and had jobs prior to graduating. The area in Tulsa, OK and Northwest Arkansas hires directly from that university though. Both of those areas are booming so it sounds as though it is easier for them to get going than for you.
Could it be your location? I know two of the guys started out making about $60k a year, company truck, company phone, etc. They travel, but they felt like they needed to do that in order to move up. I know one big company in NWA and the Tulsa area is Nabholz.
Good luck to you.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:19 pm to Manored77
Don't waste your time on a CM master's. Go out and work a while then go get an MBA.
The MBA will be more useful in The long run.
The MBA will be more useful in The long run.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:34 pm to Manored77
I looked into this. I have a BA in landscape architecture. If I wanted to take the masters in construction management classes if have to get an associate constructors certification. That's passing a test encompassing basic construction and pro practice methods. Then take the GRE. At that point you would qualify to be a candidate to get into the school.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:35 pm to Manored77
One of my friends who was a general business major who got his masters had no problems transitioning from the post bac to the masters. He had worked in construction before, but only as a gopher for his dad when he was a teenager. You get your experience via internships between, or part time during, semesters. The LSU Construction Student Association (CSA) and Construction Industry Advisory Council (CIAC) will be super helpful for this. Just make sure you get involved in CSA and sign up for the mentor program. They'll pair you up with a CIAC member who will in all likelihood give you an internship if you can't find one yourself. Those internships typically pay between $9 and $16/hr.
You're going in the right direction.
You're going in the right direction.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 7/23/16 at 9:00 am to Manored77
You have the degree. You are now in the step where you need to get your hands dirty. How can you manage a job effectively if you have no idea what goes on day to day?
Furthermore, you will not get the most out of your employees nor will you get their respect coming on the site with your pretty little khakis and polo and brand new shiny hard hat barking out unrealistic orders with not a lick of experience. You know what makes the best PM and planners? The ones who have done it, even if for a year or less. The ones who come straight out of a college classroom, struggle.
Furthermore, you will not get the most out of your employees nor will you get their respect coming on the site with your pretty little khakis and polo and brand new shiny hard hat barking out unrealistic orders with not a lick of experience. You know what makes the best PM and planners? The ones who have done it, even if for a year or less. The ones who come straight out of a college classroom, struggle.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:12 am to Manored77
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I'm going to share something with you and don't want you to take this the wrong way. To an employer your degree means not much more than to let us know that you're smart enough to pass the classes and persistent enough to stick it out to earn your degree. Your real learning will take place on the job. Get hired on as a helper during the summer and work in the field in whatever discipline of construction you want to go in. You'll want to quit, but it will be the best learning experience of your life. See if that company will hire you on as intern during the school year. When you graduate and look for a job don't get hung up on your title, just get your foot in the door, come in early, leave late, work your arse off and always look for an opportunity to learn. When asked to do something or go somewhere to help the company - say "Yes, I'll do whatever I can to help the company". Do these things and you'll endear yourself to your boss, make more money and get opportunities for advancement.
all this. no matter what. if you want a masters, your company will pay for it in the end. All you have to do is convince them its in their best interest.
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