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re: Is white privilege a real thing?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:52 pm to Maverick01
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:52 pm to Maverick01
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What does that have to do with you?
Ask that to the white families that are still spending stolen wages. Do you not understand that slaves had basically zero earning potential? Do you understand how this created a huge socioeconomic divide between whites and blacks that would continue on into the future? Do you realize that less than 60 years ago blacks didnt have basic human rights? Whites have been fricking over blacks for centuries, but it's suddenly black people's fault that they are in a fricked up situation. Classic denial
Have you identified these White families? I'm curiuos now. I'd like to know who they are.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:52 pm to Maverick01
Someone is always going to get fricked. The issue is that many blacks are doing nothing to go forward when they have every opportunity to try.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:53 pm to Maverick01
quote:What is it, who created it, and who deserves the payment?
there is an outstanding debt to blacks that never got paid off, and it should get paid off
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:56 pm to diat150
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Do i get to pick other shite like my height, athletic ability, if my parents are rich
If you're looking for insight to your subconscious views of each, sure (although, I'm sure they're obvious). Although you likely don't delude yourself into thinking that your feelings toward each of these don't exist. For instance:
Would I be taller? Sure - why? Because tall people have a social advantage in that they're more often respected and desired.
Would I chose to be more athletic. Sure - why? Again a social advantage exists.
Same with rich parents.
These social advantages do not exist for being black which is why you wouldn't choose to be black if you could.
This post was edited on 7/9/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:56 pm to Maverick01
quote:How's Africa working out for you?
Whites have been fricking over blacks for centuries, but it's suddenly black people's fault that they are in a fricked up situation. Classic denial
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
This conversation is a microcosm of society right now... It's such a moral standoff that neither side will ever budge... I'm not a aluminum foil type of guy but this whole situation has huge potential to get ugly
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:58 pm to trom83
No such thing as white privilege. In America, everybody has the same opportunity to do with their lives as they wish. White privilige ended permanently in 1968.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:58 pm to trom83
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Is white privilege a real thing and how do you overcome it? Is it something people say to shame people?
In 2016, we have a two term black president. That's proof enough that a black man or woman can achieve just about anything in life that a white person can.
Now having said that, black people have to confront certain prejudices that "may" hinder their path through life. I don't see that as "white privilege" though because I feel like if I packed my bags and moved to Japan, I'd probably have a worse time of it than most African Americans living in the US. People will always be skeptical of those who look different than them.
This post was edited on 7/9/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 7/9/16 at 2:59 pm to Maverick01
Guess you dont know the history of Cajuns all that well.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:02 pm to Mr. Hangover
one big problem is the in/out group issue
then there is a language issue
then there is an overarching epidemic of emotional thinking and attempts at rehashing "clever" points instead of trying to have a rational, logical discussion from point to the next point
that's why i jumped on you earlier for trying to do that. it serves no purpose and only increases the emotion
then there is a language issue
then there is an overarching epidemic of emotional thinking and attempts at rehashing "clever" points instead of trying to have a rational, logical discussion from point to the next point
that's why i jumped on you earlier for trying to do that. it serves no purpose and only increases the emotion
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:02 pm to LSUsuperfresh
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All of the people answering no: if you could change your skin color to black right now, would you?
Would it come with a larger penis?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:02 pm to trom83
WHite Privilege ? I dunno. You tell me.
White” doesn’t define me. I’m Cajun.
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Charlene Leger
LA
I grew up on the outskirts of a city that is almost 70% African American, on a family farm that was right next to the farm of a black family. All of us kids, in both families, grew up thinking that we were one family. I was devastated when my elementary school teacher informed me that there was no way my uncle was really my uncle. It was my first taste of racism.
As I grew older, I found out that as a white, Southern woman I often had only two options: express remorse for a part of history my ancestors took no part in, or be labeled a racist. I live in Acadiana, where Cajuns are plentiful, but I know that only a few hours drive north, east, or west, and I will find myself the ethnic minority. Few people know, or care, that the Acadian people faced genocide and exile from Canada, that in Louisiana we faced persecution and discrimination.
The high school I went to was 80% African American, but despite their majority (or maybe because of it) white students were considered second class citizens. When I suggested that we celebrate Cajun history month, so that people could learn about the history that of the ethnicity that many students (white, black, Asian, and Latino)shared, but was told that Cajun history was “white history,” there was no need for a “white history month” and to suggest so was to be racist. (There is very little, if any, mention of Cajuns in history books, even in Louisiana.) I quickly learned that when school officials talked about “increasing diversity” they meant “excluding white students”. When they spoke of “ethnic pride” they left unspoken “unless you’re white, then you obviously have no ethnicity, and certainly shouldn’t be proud of anything” although they meant that. For my junior and senior year, I was homeschooled, but I think the damage of my public high school was already done.
I hear people say all the time, “No child is born a racist. It’s something families teach them.” I agree with the first part, but I know that my parents never uttered a racial slur or taught me to disrespect anyone. Any distrust I have of black people came from my experiences with their racist attitudes. I am sick to the teeth of being labeled a “white woman” as though that is all there is to me. My family includes white, black, Asian, Native American, and Pacific Islander people through marriage, adoption, and biology. Most of us, when we choose to, label ourselves by our ethnicity, though: Cajun, Creole, Haitian, Japanese, Chitamachan, Scottish, Samoan, etc. because these things tell much more about who we are than just our skin color. Even this, though, serves to divide us, and so we often just ignore the labels all together.
I wish the rest of the world were like that.
Because it is what it is, though, I refuse to label myself “white”. When I have forms to fill out and it asks for my race, I choose “other,” and fill in “Cajun”. It’s my way of telling the world that I’m more than the color of my skin. I’m the descendant of exiles. My grandparents were beaten in public schools for speaking their native language. I’ve had people, both black and white, burl the derogatory term “coonass” at me. I’ve had people from other areas of the country express shock that I speak English, read, and wear shoes; such is the effect of stereotyping of my ethnic group in movies, TV, and books. Still, many feel that I have no right to express pride in my ethnicity or anger when people are derogatory or prejudice, because, after all, when so many of them look at me, all they see is a white woman…
[link=(LINK)]https://theracecardproject.com/white-doesnt-define-me-im-cajun/[/link]
White” doesn’t define me. I’m Cajun.
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Charlene Leger
LA
I grew up on the outskirts of a city that is almost 70% African American, on a family farm that was right next to the farm of a black family. All of us kids, in both families, grew up thinking that we were one family. I was devastated when my elementary school teacher informed me that there was no way my uncle was really my uncle. It was my first taste of racism.
As I grew older, I found out that as a white, Southern woman I often had only two options: express remorse for a part of history my ancestors took no part in, or be labeled a racist. I live in Acadiana, where Cajuns are plentiful, but I know that only a few hours drive north, east, or west, and I will find myself the ethnic minority. Few people know, or care, that the Acadian people faced genocide and exile from Canada, that in Louisiana we faced persecution and discrimination.
The high school I went to was 80% African American, but despite their majority (or maybe because of it) white students were considered second class citizens. When I suggested that we celebrate Cajun history month, so that people could learn about the history that of the ethnicity that many students (white, black, Asian, and Latino)shared, but was told that Cajun history was “white history,” there was no need for a “white history month” and to suggest so was to be racist. (There is very little, if any, mention of Cajuns in history books, even in Louisiana.) I quickly learned that when school officials talked about “increasing diversity” they meant “excluding white students”. When they spoke of “ethnic pride” they left unspoken “unless you’re white, then you obviously have no ethnicity, and certainly shouldn’t be proud of anything” although they meant that. For my junior and senior year, I was homeschooled, but I think the damage of my public high school was already done.
I hear people say all the time, “No child is born a racist. It’s something families teach them.” I agree with the first part, but I know that my parents never uttered a racial slur or taught me to disrespect anyone. Any distrust I have of black people came from my experiences with their racist attitudes. I am sick to the teeth of being labeled a “white woman” as though that is all there is to me. My family includes white, black, Asian, Native American, and Pacific Islander people through marriage, adoption, and biology. Most of us, when we choose to, label ourselves by our ethnicity, though: Cajun, Creole, Haitian, Japanese, Chitamachan, Scottish, Samoan, etc. because these things tell much more about who we are than just our skin color. Even this, though, serves to divide us, and so we often just ignore the labels all together.
I wish the rest of the world were like that.
Because it is what it is, though, I refuse to label myself “white”. When I have forms to fill out and it asks for my race, I choose “other,” and fill in “Cajun”. It’s my way of telling the world that I’m more than the color of my skin. I’m the descendant of exiles. My grandparents were beaten in public schools for speaking their native language. I’ve had people, both black and white, burl the derogatory term “coonass” at me. I’ve had people from other areas of the country express shock that I speak English, read, and wear shoes; such is the effect of stereotyping of my ethnic group in movies, TV, and books. Still, many feel that I have no right to express pride in my ethnicity or anger when people are derogatory or prejudice, because, after all, when so many of them look at me, all they see is a white woman…
[link=(LINK)]https://theracecardproject.com/white-doesnt-define-me-im-cajun/[/link]
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:03 pm to kingbob
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This is reality. Whatever "head start" slavery gave the white man has long since lapsed. Asians have caught up. Hispanics will catch up inside of 2 generations, yet blacks are worse off, objectively, than they were in 1959. Why?
A head start is still a head start. It gives you an advantage/edge. Statistically wealth amongst whites has grown exponentially faster than wealth amongst blacks. You can try spinning it however you want to spin it, but the generational wealth you speak of, along with all the other opportunities whites were privy to long before blacks absolutely matters/ is of relevance. This nation wasn't built in 60 years, so what makes you think a group of people oppressed for several centuries that just got acknowledged as having the same rights as whites less than 60 years ago is going to miraculously progress to being on the same level economically as whites?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
He caught me in a bad moment... I'm tired of the bullshite
I agree with you though
I agree with you though
This post was edited on 7/9/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:04 pm to Blob Fish
Downvote for no originality
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:05 pm to Maverick01
Once again how do you propose we pay for these reparations? As in who would pay for it?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:06 pm to Maverick01
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Maverick01
why do blacks where clothing and necklaces with the African continent around their necks? would you wear a photo of you parents if they sold you to another country? that's one thing I don't understand. why they pay so much homage to the very place that sold them to make a killing.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:06 pm to Maverick01
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Statistically wealth amongst whites has grown exponentially faster than wealth amongst blacks.
what about asisans v. blacks?
i'm not going to claim they experienced the same sort off slavery that blacks did, but they faced similar economic bondage with very similar institutional racism after the civil war through the mid 20th century
asians earn more than white people these days
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:06 pm to Maverick01
Are you dodging or didn't see my previous question?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 3:08 pm to Mr. Hangover
Downvote for being a Cubs fan
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