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re: Humans may not be from earth- an ecologist defends his controversial claim

Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:04 am to
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How often does every cell in the body get replaced?


Every 7 years.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 10:22 am to
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One theory i've heard is before Noah's flood in the Bible (ive read most major ancient civilizations have a similar story of a great flood) the earth could have been surrounded by a a thick watery layer in the sky. The earth was like a planetarium that was fed with a a mist, instead of rains. When the Earth flooded, the water came down, flooded the earth and then became the frozen poles leaving us without the protective layer. Much less protection from the sun decreased life expectancy.


Every culture does have a flood story, but that doesn't mean that the flood event needs to have been literally a worldwide flooding of all the land's surfaces. Most likely, because all settled human cultures developed around fertile river valley and because most humans did and still do live near the coast, the melting of the polar ice caps (down to where they are today), which occurred at the end of the last polar maximum, inundated coastal river valleys destroying the cities there. Since this would have occurred everywhere there was a low-lying coastal city, everyone has a flood myth. Importantly for OUR culture's flood myth, (the one in the Bible, which comes from Sumerian stories) there was most likely a prot-Sumerian civilization based in the bottom of what is now the Persian Gulf around what would have been in that climate a fertile river valley, which was drowned when the Arabian Sea/Gulf of Oman came up and over the Straight of Hormuz and flooded the valley. The survivors, bound by mountains to the north in what is now Iran, made it out onto the plains of what is now Iraq (soon to be Babylon) and with what the could remember and what they could salvage, established the ancient cultures and traditions that lead to our modern day western religions.

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Historical sea level data show that, prior to the flood, the Gulf basin would have been above water beginning about 75,000 years ago. And it would have been an ideal refuge from the harsh deserts surrounding it, with fresh water supplied by the Tigris, Euphrates, Karun, and Wadi Baton Rivers, as well as by underground springs. When conditions were at their driest in the surrounding hinterlands, the Gulf Oasis would have been at its largest in terms of exposed land area. At its peak, the exposed basin would have been about the size of Great Britain


The flood of the Persian Gulf occured 8,000 years ago.

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archaeologists have turned up evidence of a wave of human settlements along the shores of the Gulf dating to about 7,500 years ago. "Where before there had been but a handful of scattered hunting camps, suddenly, over 60 new archaeological sites appear virtually overnight


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Perhaps it is no coincidence that the founding of such remarkably well developed communities along the shoreline corresponds with the flooding of the Persian Gulf basin around 8,000 years ago


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This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 10:32 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73192 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:40 pm to
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book which describes an invisible man in the sky who created us all out of nothing but yet has the universe's biggest self-esteem issues


It goes beyond that. The Jehovah of the Bible is a straight up vengeful a-hole. Not worthy of belief much less worship. A deity created in the image and emotions of man.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:43 pm to
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Funny how people will dismiss this, but they will defend something as absurd as religion to the death.




Fckking religion.

What a waste of our time here on Earth.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:49 pm to
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brooksbabino
Great post.

Have you read about the aquatic ape hypothesis?
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The most widely held theory, still taught in schools and universities, is that we are descended from apes which moved out of the forests onto the grasslands of the open savannah. The distinctly human features are thus supposed to be adaptations to a savannah environment.

In that case, we would expect to find at least some of these adaptations to be paralleled in other savannah mammals. But there is not a single instance of this, not even among species like baboons and vervets, which are descended from forest- dwelling ancestors.


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The Aquatic Ape Theory (AAT) offers an alternative scenario. It suggests that when our ancestors moved onto the savannah they were already different from the apes; that nakedness, bipedalism, and other modifications had begun to evolve much earlier, when the ape and human lines first diverged.

AAT points out that most of the "enigmatic" features of human physiology, though rare or even unique among land mammals, are common in aquatic ones. If we postulate that our earliest ancestors had found themselves living for a prolonged period in a flooded, semi-aquatic habitat, most of the unsolved problems become much easier to unravel.


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Posted by Thurber
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:29 pm to
Bump just in case yoga girl missed it this am
Posted by Count Chocula
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:31 pm to
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Bump just in case yoga girl missed it this am
+2

This shite is right up her alley. No way she doesn't make an appearance.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57521 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:38 pm to
These questions are answered in the Bible. Read it.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11283 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 2:42 pm to
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The Jehovah of the Bible is a straight up vengeful a-hole.


You must have stopped reading after the Old testament.

The New Testament (fulfillment of the Old) is precisely the opposite of what you said.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 2:44 pm
Posted by brooksbabino
Member since Nov 2009
86 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 3:10 pm to
Yes, I've heard of the aquatic ape stuff for sure. It's super interesting although it hasn't gained much traction in the scientific community as there isn't much evidence (yet) to really support the theory. I'm open to anything though. I go where the evidence leads me.
Posted by bayoucracka
Member since Sep 2015
6830 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:10 pm to
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I'm no anthropologist, but I'm sure music developed out of group storytelling and whatnot. And as it developed music definitely became a way for dudes to get laid.

This makes as much sense as saying movies were created with the sole purpose of taking women on dates to get laid.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:12 pm to
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Fckking religion.

What a waste of our time here on Earth.



On multiple boards, you seem to waste your time talking about it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:15 pm to
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Our earth changing is more believable than us coming from another planet.



Either way, we came from somewhere else. Could be organisms on cosmic rock that hit the earth and then we evolved from that...
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84074 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 4:24 pm to
I've been saying this for years, btw.
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