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Spinoff: Washington Sees Fatal Road Crashes Involving Marijuana Double

Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:17 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65109 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:17 am
According to a study by AAA....

quote:

Fatal crashes involving drivers who recently used marijuana doubled in Washington after the state legalized the drug, but legal limits for marijuana use among drivers are arbitrary and unsupported by science.

Those are the main findings of two new studies that looked at the impact of marijuana on driving safety released earlier this month by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety, a nonprofit research and education association.

One report examined fatal crashes before and after marijuana was legalized in Washington, one of the first two states to permit the drug’s recreational use in late 2012.


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Disclaimer: I've long been on record here as being a supporter of legalizing marijuana.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:18 am to
Caused by or just involving? Haven't read yet.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
66284 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:19 am to
Whew, I never saw this coming.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:19 am to
Well yeah. When A/C was first introduced there were a lot more accidents involving cars with air conditioning.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:20 am to
Define "recently used", please. Thanks.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:22 am to
quote:

drivers who recently used marijuana


Yeah, that's newsworthy.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20744 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:22 am to
I just read the article and I'm curious what "recently" means. They keep saying drivers who "recently" used marijuana but don't define the time frame.

Since THC stays in your system for a few weeks, I'm wondering if these people just had THC in their system or if they were actually high while driving.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
12010 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:24 am to
Are we talking from 1 to 2 or 5000 to 10000?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101938 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:25 am to
And in the 7+ months since Adele released "Hello" there has been a sharp increase in fatal accidents involving drivers that had recently heard the song on the radio.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Fatal crashes involving drivers who recently used marijuana doubled in Washington after the state legalized the drug


Well, what do they mean by "recently used marijuana"?

And obviously the amount of people who "recently used marijuana" will skyrocket when it becomes legal.

Since people drink and drive, should be ban alcohol?

Posted by recruitnik
Campus
Member since Jul 2012
1223 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:31 am to
1/6 fatal crashes had someone under the influence of thc - the study doesn't state whether that's the driver or not.

so 16% of fatal crashes involve thc, but what's the percentage of drivers who are high that wreck versus sober versus drunk? that's the only way to compare.

because... of course the amount of wrecks involving thc went up - more people are consuming thc. probably... twice the amount of people in fact.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23837 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:39 am to
Sounds like they need to use Uber and Lyft more
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14847 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Washington Sees Fatal Road Crashes Involving Marijuana Double


That's a lot of lost profit for Taco Bell.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26126 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Fatal crashes involving drivers who recently used marijuana doubled in Washington after the state legalized the drug


This is almost a non story IMO. Fatal crashes happen all the time. And now it's legal to smoke pot. Yes, more of said crashes will involve pot now.

The real stat you are looking for is if total fatal crashes have increased or not.

Such shitty reporting. Forbes?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:49 am to
It's simple.


Never drive impaired in any form.
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Spinoff: Washington Sees Fatal Road Crashes Involving Marijuana Double


But how does it compare to alcohol-related accidents?

Obviously, any impaired state is going to hinder your ability to successfully operate a motor vehicle. Still, I believe we all know what remains the primary source of most drug-induced, fatal accidents.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16234 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:52 am to
From one of the studies:

quote:

Statewide, 3,031 drivers were involved in fatal crashes in years 2010 – 2014

? Overall, considering both the actual blood toxicology test results and imputed results, an estimated
303 drivers—10.0% of all drivers involved in fatal crashes in Washington between 2010 and 2014—
had detectable THC in their blood at the time of the crash


? Of all THC-positive drivers involved in fatal crashes, an estimated 34.0% had neither alcohol nor
other drugs in their blood, 39.0% had detectable alcohol in addition to THC, 16.5% had other drugs
in addition to THC, and 10.5% had had both alcohol and other drugs in addition to THC in their
blood at the time of the crash


? From 2010 through 2013, the estimated number and proportion of drivers involved in fatal crashes
who had a detectable concentration of THC in their blood ranged from a low of 48 (7.9%) to a high
of 53 (8.5%)

o The number and proportion both doubled from 49 (8.3%) in 2013 to 106 (17.0%) in 2014


From these numbers we see that between 2010 and 2013, 303 drivers involved in fatal crashes had THC in their blood. BUT only 34% had only THC, the other 66% had alcohol or other drugs.

If we assume the same percentages (34%) for the year of 2014, the number of fatal crashes where the driver ONLY had THC in their system rose from 17 drivers in 2013 to 36 drivers in 2014.

Hardly an epidemic, but noteworthy I'd say.

But as other posters have pointed out, it's impossible to say if these drivers were actually high at the time of the crash, or just had it in their system.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:19 am to
Amazing, the mental contortions the dopers will undertake to justify and discount this. That's addiction for you, folks. They could rationalize killing their own mother on the highway because they are beholden to the almighty leaf.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13495 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:30 am to
quote:

marijuana was legalized in Washington, the first state to permit the drug’s recreational use in late 2012


FIFY
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:34 am to
wonder how many are hitting food trucks while high?
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