re: Captain America: Civil War ***SPOILERS*** and Review Thread

1. It's rare to have a fight sequence captivate me as a grown arse man the way that the airport sequence did. THAT is why I continue to go to these comic book movies, for that feeling of being a kid again.

2. It is damn near unheard of to have two fight sequences do that in one movie. The fight between Bucky, Stark, and Cap was akin to watching a critical drive in the waning seconds of a huge football game; you know you're watching something important take place and that is a testament to the job that the directors and writers did to get the story and the relationships to that point.

3. Loved the foreshadow with Bucky holding the shield. Honestly thought for a minute that Steve was going to die and Bucky was taking over.

4. I wasn't sure how I was going to feel watching what was for all intents and purposes an Avengers movie without Hulk and Thor in it. But holy hell if T'Challa and Spidey don't completely nail their characters. Left the theater excited for both of their individual movies and had completely forgotten Thor and Hulk were even in the picture except for the time or two when they were mentioned in the movie.

5. WE ARE GOING TO GET THE DEADPOOL/SPIDEY BUDDY COP FILM FROM HELL THAT WE DESERVE!!!!!!!

Fantastic movie, about on par with CA The Winter Soldier for me.

My only beef is no Thor, he's my favorite Avenger in these movies, but I understand how his abilities may have outsized the scope of this movie.

The Dr Strange trailer made my balls drop again.

1A)Deadpool
1B)CA:CW

Amazing movie on all levels.

How did this movie do Spider-Man better than the movies?

what did the King's ring do to Bucky's arm?

I saw the movie today and absolutely loved it. I'm not a major comic book reader but I have seen all the Marvel movies and the character development and stories are a beauty to watch. Like many others have said, the Spider-Man was perfectly cast and written into this movie. I enjoy Toby's characterization of SM in the first 2 films he did. 3rd on sucked. Holland did a great job and I do look forward to his stand alone movie and the possibilities they can go forward with him.
I do have a question that someone might be able to answer. It was obvious from Capt America: Winter Soldier that Sharon Carter was Peggy Carter niece. How is this possible? Did Peggy Carter have more than one sibling? The one I'm familiar with was her brother from watching Agent Carter. But he died and that was the catalyst for her joining the SSR. How can Sharon be her niece and in her 30s if Peggy brother died in the 40s?

I loved it. Awesome fighting. Spiderman was cool, but didnt like aunt may . Black panther was cool. Iron man shouldve killed winter soilder with his shoulder missiles. Bucky still should be in jail. He still killed people.


One thing though: do Avengers (and stark give to charity?) More social good would be done if world hunger, poverty, scholarships, and free healthcare were addressed.
Also , isnt ghost rider owned by marvel? Him vs avengers were awesome

Family in town this weekend, so I just caught this tonight....

Spectacular? Awesome? Great? I'm not sure which expletive to use, but the movie was that. And I mean that as a "superhero movie." CW isn't a perfect film, but it sure does set out to do one thing and just nail it. Marvel continuously just gets nearly everything right:
--Keeping the Movies Grounded in the Source Material
--Weaving the world together expertly
--Developing multiple characters over multiple films
--Making Poignant Entertainment

I'll start from the bottom. The third best thing about Civil War is the idea of Guilt that runs through the film. The major players - Cap, Bucky, Tony, Zemo and BP - are all driven by it in different ways. In the same way that AoU was about Family, TFA was about Duty, IM was about Humility and so forth - Marvel actually does give some depth (read: not a lot, but enough to make an impact) that helps anchor the film in a real emotion. It works, and works well. They are going to deconstruct the idea of guilt in a visual essay, but they are going to simply let that emotion drive the plot. That's effective storytelling, whether or not people catch it (and most totally whiffed on Family in AoU, Whedon was almost too clever).

The Second Best thing about Civil War is that every character has moments. Whether it's Wanda and Vision cooking, or Ant-Man and Hawkeye bro-ing out through their powers in Battle, or Bucky and Falcon hating each other, everyone gets something to do, and gets just a little bit of development. Not only that, everyone gets more than a moment of a unique use of their powers and/or ability. I get the feeling that the Russos/Whedon/Feige/Marvel looks at their sets and storyboards and really puts themselves into. Bucky one handing a motorcycle and riding it in one motion? Gold. Vision materializing at just the right moments vs. Hawkeye? Awesome. Falcon just being Falcon. It's both smart and unique, but they've given each character a distinct identity and that's awesome. That's why the movies have so much personality.

And the best thing: Steve and Bucky. This is their story and it works so well. Evans' Cap has been the most interesting superhero of the last 10 years hands down. He's grown, he's become more authentic and more dangerous (compare fight scenes from TFA to CW)....but this movie doesn't work without Stan pulling off the constantly tortured routine. And that's tough to do in a film with a pretty good wise cracking Spider-Man. There's pathos behind WS as there should be. I think Stan was a huge part of why this film works so well. And the idea that the entire plot comes from Steve's dedication to Bucky is huge. Anyone saying that this is an "Avengers" film is really downplaying that the underlying current in the movie is all about Steve's relationship to Bucky and how that plays out to everything around him. Steve doesn't move when he feels he has a duty to truth and honor (they gave Peggy Steve's quote, probably effective, but it was so good in CW-comics). Well done. The film was Steve...not moving. It's a Captain America film through and through.

The other things I liked - Yeah Black Panther was just perfectly cast. So well done on that. Spidey too. I also don't think there was a wasted minute, given the need to give everyone screen time. At the same time, I feel like the movie could have been a tad shorter, haha.

Flaws:
I'm with everyone that Zemo was a problem. However, for a different reason. I don't think he was wasted - He won and he lived how can he be a waste?, His plan wasn't THAT convoluted. However......he wasn't nearly as dangerous as he should be, and he just didn't have the pure panache of the comic book Zemo. These are different properties, but I wanted a more deadly Zemo. But he wasn't the real or "main villain." He was more of a catalyst. Bruhl was solid and I hope he comes back.

And like someone else said above - the scene at the end with BP and Zemo - that was massively important going forward. When you can say that a more minor character like BP experienced growth in a film that isn't directly about him, that's huge.

The Lagos fight scene was awkward compared to the rest of the film, and I think William Hurt could have been more impressive. I just don't know what they are going to do with Thunderbolt Ross at this point.

Cap's position in this was slightly weaker than it was in the comics where it was more about innocent lives. I still side with Cap and get his fear. But Tony has a MUCH better argument here than in the comics.

The big thing is that the film moved more than a few characters forward, it gave importance to a really great character like WS and set the stage for the next set of films....which is the bigger question and really for a different thread.

It's tied with WS as my favorite MCU film.

SIAP, but good god, the resemblance is astounding.



On the right is Bucky Barnes with Luke Skywalker hair.

just saw it

it was fricking awesome

the Russo's are ridiculous