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re: Best home defense pistol AGAIN. but a twist.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 4:43 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Posted on 4/30/16 at 4:43 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Rossi revolvers are more than decent for the price, they'll come in under $500.00. With .357 magnum rounds, there may be more than one assailant, but after the concussion of the first round they'll likely be hauling arse.
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Posted on 4/30/16 at 6:26 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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I dont know
That's why I ask. Most of the full sized revolvers I've seen creep up past their price point, as they appear nicer. I have not been looking long though. Just got posed the question today.
Fair enough. I can understand working w/in a budget. To keep in your price range, you might consider used or police trade ins. For example, this one would be NICE, but out of stock.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 7:02 pm to VOLcano
quote:I bet they do if they can get it in there. The guy's point was that mom would break her knitting finger trying to force 40 SWs into a double stack GLOCK.
Do people really not always have one in the chamber of their carry/defense gun?
This post was edited on 4/30/16 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 4/30/16 at 7:13 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Heavy-framed 357 loaded with 38's.
Might try smaller grips.
Go ahead and post pics with her new gun--several of us are also well into our 60's.
Might try smaller grips.
Go ahead and post pics with her new gun--several of us are also well into our 60's.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:05 am to wolfonthebayou
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The guy's point was that mom would break her knitting finger trying to force 40 SWs into a double stack GLOCK.
Precisely.
Hence my pushing a revolver. She mentioned a .38 so I said that was good.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:06 am to Rockbrc
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Go ahead and post pics with her new gun--several of us are also well into our 60's.
Hey Goddamn it!!! Watch your mouth!
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:53 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Kids. Mine is crafty enough to snoop and find mine. He's not strong enough to chamber one though.
Gun safe? Pricey for a good one and I can chamber a round in the time it would take me to open any safe.
And that's me. Mom would be even more worried.
So much wrong here but I don't want to hijack an otherwise good discussion.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:41 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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I see no reason to talk her out of it.
Except that there are some very good reasons to recommend a semi over a revolver. I'm not an anti-revolver guy.
Does she shoot? Has she shot? Will she shoot?
All of those are important questions. She will enjoy shooting a 9mm semi more than a snubby revolver. A snubby revolver (like the excellent LCR or J-frame Smiths) ARE huge compromises. They have limited capacity (5 shots). They're hard on the shooter. They have marginal sights (although crimson trace option is possible, a higher price point, built in from Ruger on the LCR). There are limited factory loads for .38 special (but not too bad, particularly if +P is an option).
Having said ALL of that, 9mm is an option, even for a LCR. You would at least have HST and other fine, fine options for a round. Moon clips might complicate the issue, but at least it would be an option.
But, I would suggest a full power, .357 revolver. Ruger SP101 is a 5-shot and an "intermediate" choice, but you can get one with a 4" barrel. I think a Ruger GP100 would serve as an adequate nightstand gun. You would have a huge range of .357 Mag and .38 +P loadings.
Otherwise, it is impossible to make a bad choice for this purpose in buying a Glock 19.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 8:09 am
Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:42 pm to wolfonthebayou
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The guy's point was that mom would break her knitting finger trying to force 40 SWs into a double stack GLOCK.
Nonsense. It is easier to rack the slide on a full size gun, than on one of those compact and blowback guns.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:35 pm to Ace Midnight
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Except that there are some very good reasons to recommend a semi over a revolver. I'm not an anti-revolver guy.
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Otherwise, it impossible to make a bad choice for this purpose in buying a Glock 19.
I can see in NO UNIVERSE my mother loading a magazine and manipulating the slide to chamber a round.
I also can never see my Mom being "granny get your gun" and actually going down to the range or ever making a hobby of shooting.
You used the term "nightstand gun" and that is exactly what this will be. I can only envision her ever being comfortable enough to load and fire the gun. Otherwise it will sit for years (hopefully) because she will only take it out for maintenance, cleaning, or a god awful moment.
If I could see her doing any of this or enjoying it, I would be all onboard with team Glock.
All this has managed to do thus far is make me want a revolver. S&W's are pretty.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:42 pm to Ace Midnight
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Nonsense. It is easier to rack the slide on a full size gun, than on one of those compact and blowback guns.
I can see my mom being unable to rack any slide.
And having shot one of those compacts myself I know she would be put off by the recoil of that tiny light gun. Tiny IS cute. Until you shoot it. Then holding that little bastard is like trying to hold a cat still.
I've talked to Dad about it too. He is ex-Army. Drafted during Vietnam, but sent to a Japanese hospital for his duration. All he did was fire an M-14 (I THINK) only when told to for training and proficiency. Other wise he learned to smoke Marlboros and drink Sake'. He says he never fired a semi auto handgun. Only fired rifles while active duty, and never was a gun guy afterword. So he too is starting from square one nearly.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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I can see in NO UNIVERSE my mother loading a magazine
You heard of an Uplula, baw?
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nd manipulating the slide to chamber a round.
Before her hand surgery, I had a 100lb mother in law rack the slide on a Sig SP2022. There is a technique you can teach a person who has some weak hand issues.
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S&W's are pretty.
I think they have that Clinton lock, still. (S&W folks - tell me I'm wrong.) Which is yet ANOTHER thing to worry about.
Revolver = Ruger for me in the 21st Century. Not because they're pretty, but because they're good. You want a small, light one? LCR. Best in the market, IMHO. You want a big .44 Magnum? Redhawk. And everything in between.
Do what you want, baw. Don't let our knowledge/experience stop you.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 3:29 pm to LSU alum wannabe
The. 38 will have a 12 lb trigger pull. That is a lot for a woman and will affect accuracy.
Glockk 42 is good for her. So are some of the nines.
Glockk 42 is good for her. So are some of the nines.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:20 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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I'd be afraid my mom would have issues with a magazine and slide
I keep hearing this, but it shouldn't be that big of an issue.
If the Glock is loaded there is no reason for her to pull the slide back.
17 rounds later....the slide is gonna lock back and she will easily be able to put a new mag in and press the slide release.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:27 pm to Team Alpha Beast
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I keep hearing this, but it shouldn't be that big of an issue.
It is an issue. I've seen an older woman go through pistol after pistol in the dealer's case trying to find one she could pull back the slide on reliably. Couldn't do it. Anyone who intends to use any firearm must be able to properly and safely manipulate it.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:35 pm to Clames
It's not.
The issue is no one showing her how to pull the slide back using her whole hand to grasp the slide and to push the frame and pull the slide at the same time.
The issue is no one showing her how to pull the slide back using her whole hand to grasp the slide and to push the frame and pull the slide at the same time.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:36 pm to Clames
She has to use a different technique to move the slide.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:38 pm to Team Alpha Beast
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The issue is no one showing her how to pull the slide back using her whole hand to grasp the slide and to push the frame and pull the slide at the same time.
All of this.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 4:39 pm to Clames
Also in home defense....she shouldn't be needing to operate the slide. So the slide should be a non-issue.
It should be loaded and ready to rock and roll.
It should be loaded and ready to rock and roll.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 5:10 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Wait. Just saw this post...
So let me get this straight, because of kids it's unsafe to keep a loaded semi in the house but a loaded revolver is ok?
IMHO, a pistol intended for self defense that isn't fully loaded is not a good idea.
Chances are when you need it, your heart rate and blood pressure are gonna be very high and you are gonna completely forget to load it.
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Kids. Mine is crafty enough to snoop and find mine. He's not strong enough to chamber one though.
Gun safe? Pricey for a good one and I can chamber a round in the time it would take me to open any safe.
And that's me. Mom would be even more worried.
So let me get this straight, because of kids it's unsafe to keep a loaded semi in the house but a loaded revolver is ok?
IMHO, a pistol intended for self defense that isn't fully loaded is not a good idea.
Chances are when you need it, your heart rate and blood pressure are gonna be very high and you are gonna completely forget to load it.
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