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re: LSU baseball and upcoming MLB draft

Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:18 am to
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
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Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:19 am to
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Who is going to throw the ball back into the infield for him?


The same guy that throws it in for all the other bat first left fielders with mediocre arms.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127299 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:26 am to
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all the other bat first left fielders
A guy with a batting average of .282 and who has struck out more times than any other player on the team is not exactly a "bat first" type of player....
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:30 am to
So you believe that players don't develop? Okay cool.
Posted by MadtownTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:35 am to
The only people that have a valid excuse to go that aren't seniors are Fraley and Newman.

Poche will probably go based on what the word is around town. He will stay in High A maybe AA for the next couple of years. I really just don't think he has it for AAA/Majors.

Deichmann will probably go just because CPM is a POS. He has alot of raw talent, just needs a good batting coach.

I don't really see anyone else being drafted high enough to realistically leave.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:35 am to
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So you believe that players don't develop? Okay cool.
So based on your criteria every player should be drafted high? Okay cool.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85311 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:37 am to
Remember when you tried to use Deichmann's Fld% to argue he was as good a fielder as KRob? Good times.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:43 am to
He will probably play second base. He has 2 good tools but the fact that he has 2 more years of eligibility might make him hard to sign and get him passed on. He still has a lot of struggles but he made a lot of progress after last year. He could work his way into a decent bonus if he returns and improves his plate discipline and gets some kind of true defensive profile.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127299 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:50 am to
Remember when you kept saying Chinea shouldn't be an everyday starter? Or that Zardon should play instead of Jared Foster or Hale? Or, that Bregman should be batting 8th in the order? Or when you predicted Papieriski would be the starting catcher last year instead of Scivicque by the time the SEC schedule started? Good times.....
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:53 am to
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Who is going to throw the ball back into the infield for him?



Deichmann has an 87Mph arm from the left side of the INF. Way more than adequate
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:53 am to
Yes. My predictions and opinions. Still better than being confused about why a first baseman's fielding percentage would be skewed compared to a shortstop's.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 10:54 am
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:54 am to
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Remember when you kept saying Chinea shouldn't be an everyday starter? Or that Zardon should play instead of Jared Foster or Hale? Or, that Bregman should be batting 8th in the order? Or when you predicted Papieriski would be the starting catcher last year instead of Scivicque by the time the SEC schedule started? Good times.....



ouch
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127299 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:55 am to
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Still better than being confused about why a first baseman's fielding percentage would be skewed.
Deichmann was playing third base when I posted that.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85311 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:57 am to
I said Chinea should DH fwiw... And I never wanted Z to play for Hale until he was 1-19 in the post season. I though Z should have gotten an AB at some point. Never start for him. My pap prediction was after the fall when Sciv couldn't make a throw to 3B or 2B or 1B.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85311 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:05 am to
He only had like 3 starts there at the time.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:38 am to
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I think you people are rating Fraley way to high Not that he won't go but 1st or 2nd round. His stick just is not there.Where is the power? the RBI's ? Plays a great center field, but more was expected.In my opinion batting him 2nd is a waste


Did Fraley piss in your cheerios or something?

This is at least the 3rd time I've seen you say he's not any good, despite the numbers completely to the contrary.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127299 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:40 am to
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I said Chinea should DH fwiw..

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Are you okay with PM's decision to start Chinea every single game?

No
This was your thread's OP I don't see any mention of him being the DH.

Later in that thread you wrote:
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I don't have a single thing against Chi. He should PH at times.
No mention of you saying he should be the starting DH. Maybe you started adding that when he was leading the team in homeruns.....

LINK

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Started really hot and cooled off some late. But he's not a 3-hole hitter at all. And he's not the best catcher IMO.
So the player with the second highest slugging % on the team shouldn't be the 3-hole hitter "at all"?
And he "cooled off" even before the season started? And Scivicque definitely WAS the best catcher last season.

And I'm not even going to mention how you tried to convince the board earlier this season that Cody Ducote's last name is pronounced "dew-coat."
Posted by Tigahs1977
Member since Feb 2016
1073 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:49 am to
90-100% gone: Fraley, Poche, Deichmann
75-89% gone: Newman, Robertson
Could sign late and go because of non senior leverage: Stallings, Bugg, Reynolds, Romero
Teams will probably take a flier: Cartwright, Freeman
I think all should return but Fraley and Poche, but Robertson and Deichmann are two that have said multiple times that they're out of BR ASAP. Hunter Newman is a wildcard that could come back with another dominant year as closer and get drafted as such, or he could get picked up high by the scouts who have seen him killing it in SEC play. Relievers are harder to predict. So look for those two (Fraley and Poche) to go for sure, Greg and Kramer to go if drafted in the top 1/2 (no not top 1/2 rounds, top half of the draft) and barring any draft day surprises most of them should be back.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 11:54 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127299 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:57 am to
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Robertson and Deichmann are two that have said multiple times that they're out of BR ASAP.
Link?
Posted by Tigahs1977
Member since Feb 2016
1073 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:08 pm to
Don't have a link. Have had multiple personal conversations with players and parents. Also, It's been no secret to the players, fans or media that KRob and CPM and Deichmann and CPM don't get along. See Saturday night for reference... Not to mention Greg Sr is one of the most vocal ball parents I've ever met in my life... if Greg is drafted, he is gone. Kramer bit the bullet for 2 years and stayed, finally got to start, prove he can hit and play SS in the SEC. Not much more there.
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