re: Good Article on Fournette's Humbleness

What kind of swag do you have though when you wear your own jersey to the OU basketball game?


I am glad I got to watch Simmons, Fournette and Bregman play for LSU in person the last year. 3 great athletes that will be Tigers forever in my eyes.

How is Leonard posturing?

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I cannot understand the hatred bama fan has toward him. I hear it all the time and I dont get it

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Envy, jealousy, resentment, spite, etc.

You see, Gump nation is a spoiled and insecure lot. Like a petulant child they stamp their feet when they don't get what they want.

They wanted LF. They didn't get him. Now they're pitching a fit.

Man shut the frick up. Every time an athlete or celebrity comes off as humble or has humility there's always those select few who like to cherry pick stupid shite and call them fake and a poser. just stfu

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What a bunch of complete hogwash.

1) The heisman pose was a stunt by a kid that had been previously done by LSU players multiple times. Let the kids have fun.

2) The Fournettes should forego an opportunity to make money because you feel it is not right? Some of you people are too stupid sour to enjoy a good thing.

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1. Fournette's pose was clearly pre-planned and occurred after a generic TD against a D-IAA opponent. Let kids have fun? I've got no problem with fun, but this thread is about humility. If you think that pose showed humility - I just don't know what to say. Now I did say that since then, Fournette has been great and seems to be a team-first guy who loves LSU. I guess you overlooked that part of my post.

2. I never said his family couldn't make money off him (assuming it doesn't violate any NCAA rules). I just never said that. Again, the question is about humility, and whether creating your own nickname and hand signal demonstrates humility.

I prefer the Barry Sanders, Herschel Walker type players - do incredible stuff and then just hand the ball to the ref like it's no big deal. Just like the old saying "Act like you've been there before."

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Fournette is NOT humble.

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All appearances suggest he is. Unless you are basing your evaluation on personal, non-public knowledge, I'd have to disagree.

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Humble people do not have their very own hand signal, nor do they strike Heisman poses.

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Of course that do. That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Most of the greatest examples of humility in history (real and fictitious) are once-proud people brought low who learn humility through experience. And no person in history has ever exhibited any character trait 100% of the time. Generous people have all, at some point in their lives, done something less than 100% selfless; that does not mean they are not generous people. Brave people have all, at some point in their lives, experienced moments of fear or doubt in the face of adversity; that does not mean they are not brave people. Just because Fournette has had moments of pride, or even cockiness, does not mean he is not a humble person.

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I prefer the Barry Sanders, Herschel Walker type players - do incredible stuff and then just hand the ball to the ref like it's no big deal.

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Actually, you apparently don't. Both of them celebrated TDs before (I've actually seen each of them actually spike a football at least once), both of them did commercials celebrating how great they were, and both had nicknames (Big Bad Barry & Superman; though to his credit, the "Superman" nickname was far more original when Hershel Earned it). Barry even held out from training camp over contract negotiations, and refused to give back the rest of his last signing bonus when he retired early because he was tired of the Lions losing. Apparently, neither of them can be considered humble in your book because they have done some things are not 100% representative of humility.

Obviously, I think that is silly. Hershel Walker and -- especially -- Barry Sanders are some of the most humble people out there because stacked up against a few cherry-picked examples of non-humble behaviour are the mountains of day to day examples of humble lives. For every TD he spiked, I imagine Barry had dozens where he -- as you said -- simply handed the ball to the ref without flair. Hershel was (and apparently still is) a tireless worker who gave everything he could to his teams. He also struggled with his own issues, but has worked to turn those into opportunities to help others who struggle with them. Both men spent large portions of their lives under near-constant media scrutiny, and even under that spotlight managed to be consistently humble and share respect for others.

So far, Fournette has shown the same behaviour. He has had moments which, alone, do not evidence humility. But his behaviour taken as a whole, and in the context of the spotlight far greater than any the media could have shone on either Barry or Hershel at the time, demonstrates a humble character. I think it is wrong to deny him credit for that simply by cherry picking a few examples. I think it would be more fair to point up how few exceptions there have been in the context of his age and status; while other superstars his age are struggling to produce a few examples of humility, Fournette's detractors are struggling find a few examples of him lacking humility.

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I love these types of responses. Instead of arguing the merits, attack the messenger.

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ok....deal


you are a jerk as evidenced by being a nitpicking douche

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What is the Rant's reaction to John Smith doing this stuff? If it's supportive, I'll be very, very surprised. I would think the Rant would be destroying him.

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Likely so, just as many on here (including myself) were critical of Fournette when he did it. Key phrase: when he did it. Not for the rest of his life.

What does that have to do with giving a person credit for the way he lives his life in general rather than cherry picking two specific examples of behaviour and judging him on those?