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re: The 2016 Physician Compensation Report is out
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:41 pm to Parallax
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:41 pm to Parallax
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always review tough cases with them in person and it's usually really helpful (for both of us
Agree. We both learn something. I also like to go back after a case and say, "hey, remember this scan, well this is what I found Intra-op". We'll look at the scan again , and both learn from it.
Likewise, it's why I go to pathology and look at slides with them. Can learn a lot.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:44 pm to Parallax
Everyone in any profession has stress, but I meant that it's not a high level at all
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:46 pm to Cs
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For now. We already have functional surgical robots that can autonomously apply sutures.
As AI systems and computer vision technologies advance, you'll see such systems gradually take over responsibility for most surgeries
Maybe they can go ahead and just frick for us, too, C? Would that be cool? Would that be the money?
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:47 pm to RedRifle
It's amazing how much Emergency Medicine docs make. More than Gen Surg, Ophtho, Pulm/Crit, Nephro? That's just nuts.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:48 pm to Cs
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Whether people like it or not, a nationalized single payer system will occur here in the decades ahead. Only receiving reinbursements via medicare and medicaid will result in physician salaries that hover around
When that happens, no one will go into medicine unless Med school debt and malpractice, among many other things, can be controlled for. Coming out of a residency at 30yo (at best, most likely 34-35) with $200k+ in debt, making $100k per year and paying $60k per year in malpractice. Who'd want to do that when you can do a lot less stressful jobs and make a hell of lot more.
So then you get everyone treated by NPs, which are great for the everyday stuff, but are shite for anything complicated (and I work with 2 NPs). Just watch that mortality rate skyrocket.
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:56 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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It's amazing how much Emergency Medicine docs make.
The next bubble for physician salaries.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 8:03 pm to pngtiger
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When that happens, no one will go into medicine unless Med school debt and malpractice, among many other things, can be controlled for.
Even if the federal government subsidized medical education and implemented true tort reform, would anyone still go into medicine for a $~100,000 salary given the training and stress involved?
You're still looking at 4 rigorous years of medical school and 3-7 years of residency.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 8:10 pm to EA6B
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ding around in a lead apron all day doing fluro procedures. I don't have the numbers, but would bet a interventional cardiologist has a higher annual radiation exposure than the average radiologist today.
Interesting you say that. I remember reading an article by a retired cardiologist who got cancer.
Here it is: LINK
Posted on 4/2/16 at 8:53 pm to Cs
Yeah, unfortunately controlling costs to the federal government means reducing reimbursements. This primarily hits the pockets of physicians which is a relatively small part of where our healthcare dollars go. Heaven forbid we do something that actually reduces the "bloat" (administrative costs and the diseases associated with the size of our patients).
And don't think universal coverage will lower the number of ED visits. When you can't get in to the vascular surgeons office because there is a wait (2/2 rationing or providers giving heavy scheduling preference to those who are willing to pay cash or have private insurance), where you gonna go? If the ED remains a source of income then I imagine ED docs will continue to make good money.
And don't think universal coverage will lower the number of ED visits. When you can't get in to the vascular surgeons office because there is a wait (2/2 rationing or providers giving heavy scheduling preference to those who are willing to pay cash or have private insurance), where you gonna go? If the ED remains a source of income then I imagine ED docs will continue to make good money.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 9:01 pm to RedRifle
Surely that changes based on where they live, right? I can't imagine the interventional radiologists and cardiologist out here are only making 400K. RNs are making 250 so I would think they make more than double that...
Posted on 4/2/16 at 9:04 pm to Cs
Tort reform? Most states and are cap states. Complete immunity from negligence is un American.
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 9:06 pm to jennBN
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RNs are making 250
lol no they aren't
Posted on 4/2/16 at 9:07 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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Yeah, unfortunately controlling costs to the federal government means reducing reimbursements.
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RNs are making 250
Found a place they could start.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 9:07 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
Fricking California. I love the state but would never practice there.
My friends doing residency at Stanford and UCSF can barely pay rent and RNs are killing it. Absurd.
My friends doing residency at Stanford and UCSF can barely pay rent and RNs are killing it. Absurd.
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 9:08 pm to Parallax
I have a buddy that does back pain management. He's off that chart.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 9:16 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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Yeah, unfortunately controlling costs to the federal government means reducing reimbursements. This primarily hits the pockets of physicians which is a relatively small part of where our healthcare dollars go.
Agree. Still don't think people will do it even if Med school is fully subsidized and tort reform happens. Delaying an income for 7-10 years means these people are least $700k in earning potential behind their peers (with a medium of $100k salary on completion of residency). Then take into account the stress and the amount of work (I still work 70-100 hours a week), don't think so.
As to the doctors reimbursement, the latest figure I heard was it was only 9% of total healthcare expenditures. Decreasing it to 5%?wont do squat for decreasing healthcare costs. In fact, reimbursement has decreased from 16% to 9% and costs have increased.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 9:18 pm to jennBN
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RNs are making 250 so I would think they make more than double that...
Lol, no, unless you're talking about travel nurses. But even they don't make that much. Best hourly wage I've heard for a nurse that's been there a while is $24/hour, which is just short of $50k, working 52 weeks of the year.
Maybe you mean NPs, but best for them is somewhere in the $80-90k range for the really good ones.
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 9:20 pm to RedRifle
Why are peds so low? Kids don't get sick anymore?
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