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re: The 2016 Physician Compensation Report is out
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:02 pm to Yellerhammer5
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:02 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Yellerhammer5
Such the truth! So much hedging.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:05 pm to pngtiger
You can tell there are a handful of physicians and a whole lot of stupid in this thread. These self reported salary surveys are dumb and never very accurate given the large disparity in pay between providers of the same specialty in different locations and practice settings and phases of their career...etc.
I'm at a level 1 trauma center, we fix pelvic rings without 3D recons of our CTs all the time. You must know some pretty shitty orthos.
I can collect about $800 an hour (Medicare dollars since that's universal) in the OR (in ideal conditions with good turnover and/or 2 rooms). Guys doing joints collect more. At some point major recons aren't worth the money given the fact the reimbursement increase doesn't mirror the time increase relative to something quick like an ankle fracture.
Don't forget, people with nothing more than a high school diploma and a "certification" suture in the OR. There will probably come a day when a robot can visualize structures, make complex intra-operative decisions based on anatomic variables or non-textbook fracture patterns...Id bet a lot of money that day doesn't come during my lifetime. That's enough tangents for now...
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wouldn't let an orthopod repair my complex pelvic fracture without 3D reconstructions, etc. But these are all complimentary roles.
I'm at a level 1 trauma center, we fix pelvic rings without 3D recons of our CTs all the time. You must know some pretty shitty orthos.
I can collect about $800 an hour (Medicare dollars since that's universal) in the OR (in ideal conditions with good turnover and/or 2 rooms). Guys doing joints collect more. At some point major recons aren't worth the money given the fact the reimbursement increase doesn't mirror the time increase relative to something quick like an ankle fracture.
Don't forget, people with nothing more than a high school diploma and a "certification" suture in the OR. There will probably come a day when a robot can visualize structures, make complex intra-operative decisions based on anatomic variables or non-textbook fracture patterns...Id bet a lot of money that day doesn't come during my lifetime. That's enough tangents for now...
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:06 pm to RedRifle
Doctors and teachers...still underpaid.
Shame on our society.
Shame on our society.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:06 pm to pngtiger
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Such the truth! So much hedging.
Well , you call it hedging I call it several things looking radiographically similar.
It's can be hard to nail down a diagnoses when an abdominal CTs clinical indication is foot pain.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:07 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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I wonder how much the orthopedics number is inflated due to professional sports?
Doc I knew who worked on Saints players was living more than comfortably.
Probably not, reimbursement rates for ortho is higher. Their bread and butter is pelvic and long bone fractures from falls with a large distribution being Geri's.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
My uncle's wife is a radiologist and makes a killing. She also has like two months vacation time each year
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Go get some Jones Act Cases and you will make more than 400k per annum, I know this
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:11 pm to Hammertime
10-12 weeks vacation is pretty standard for private practice radiology.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:13 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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YipSkiddlyDooo
What city you in? I'm at a level 1 doing trauma/acs, general surgery. In mobile.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:15 pm to Parallax
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Nope. You actually see more old as dirt radiologists than any other specialty.
And they don't seem to have any more health issues than the general population. With advances in other imaging modalities like CT and MRI, they are not standing around in a lead apron all day doing fluro procedures. I don't have the numbers, but would bet a interventional cardiologist has a higher annual radiation exposure than the average radiologist today.
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:17 pm to RedRifle
Do y'all even "ancillaries" bro?
As of late, the OT tells me that there is all this under the table "vaccine money" floating around. This too is likely not getting reported.....
As of late, the OT tells me that there is all this under the table "vaccine money" floating around. This too is likely not getting reported.....
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:22 pm to Parallax
I thought that was amazing when she first told me because I've never had a job with vacation time. My only vacation time was when I called in sick
From what she's told me, being a radiologist isn't stressful at all
From what she's told me, being a radiologist isn't stressful at all
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:24 pm to Hammertime
Every specialty in medicine has stress.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:24 pm to MrSpock
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Well , you call it hedging I call it several things looking radiographically similar.
Oh, I understand, it's CYA a lot of times. It's tough not looking at the whole picture to make a diagnosis, and your read is oftentimes all that is looked at, not the actual scan. Which is why I do my own reading and see if it jives with the radiology read, and if not I go talk to them. There are many that don't (some of the non-surgical specialties are bad for this). In fact, if I'm really worried/interested, I will sit down with them when they're reading films and give them the picture, so they can give me a more accurate read.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:28 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
Nice, nice place to live. My uncle has been trying to get me to move out there. Wish I had his type of money.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:28 pm to pngtiger
Radiologists have one of the best overall medical knowledge. I always review tough cases with them in person and it's usually really helpful (for both of us).
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:29 pm to 62Tigerfan
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I'm no physician but I work very closely with them in my profession. Believe me, it's not nearly as lucrative as it was 10 years ago. It still is for some select specialties, but overall no. Even in lucrative ones, it can take a long time to get established in a market and accepted by the medical community for consults, etc. And the malpractice and liability insurance can be outrageously expensive.
And it's only going to get worse.
Whether people like it or not, a nationalized single payer system will occur here in the decades ahead. Only receiving reinbursements via medicare and medicaid will result in physician salaries that hover around $100,000.
Just look at the salaries for UK physicians under the NHS.
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:36 pm to Parallax
Radiologists are generally very appreciative of just a phone call, and more than willing to chat...sitting in a read room all day would be turrible
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