re: Spinoff: major plot holes in movies you've noticed

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busts the J

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Do the bad guys have the 3 "clues"? If not, all they see is just a bunch of letters with one missing, they still wouldnt' know specifically which ones to step on.

If they do know this beforehand, then disregard.

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, it aggravates me that he does everything possible to lead the baddies to the Grail room. He stops the blades, busts the J and throws rocks on the "invisible" walkway.

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I think he was just a tad bit more concerned with saving his father from bleeding out than he was with making it hard for the Nazis to get back there.

I assume someone mentioned Little Mermaid. Why didn't Ariel just write the guy a note that she was the person that saved his life? Even if she couldn't write, she could at least draw a damn picture or something.

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I think he was just a tad bit more concerned with saving his father from bleeding out than he was with making it hard for the Nazis to get back there.

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So concerned that he turns around to toss rocks on the walkway?

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So concerned that he turns around to toss rocks on the walkway?

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Yes. He needed to know where he could walk to get back with the Grail so he could save his father.

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Ummm.... think about it. No. He couldn't. No matter how he brings divine intervention in you have the same complaint about making the whole quest seem pointless if you want to take that stance because God is all powerful. That's the point. He could have ended everything at any point. He doesn't until after Frodo's test is complete. If you start imposing limits on how powerful it can be then it no longer is divine intervention.

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So, there was no other way for Frodo to be saved after passing his test? None at all? I find that hard to believe.

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The truth is that you have an issue with the greater thematic message of Lord of the Rings and Tolkien's work in general.

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Wrong.

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That stance is valid and all, but it isn't a plot hole.

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It is as much of a plot hole as anything in this thread. Just because you can come up with a theory on how to explain it away, doesn't make it not a plot hole. You still have massive animals that could have easily transported the heroes to destroy the ring, that don't, then show up to rescue said hero at the end. That is a plot hole.

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The eagles where there to pick them up at the end b/c they were part of the frontal assault at the gates of Mordor that was used to divert the Eye of Sauron's attention away from Bilbo and Frodo as they were sneaking in through the hidden pass.

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Great. Now we have the frontal assault on Sauron (that we had to avoid so they didn't use eagles), the eagles destroy the nazgul, and reach mordor with no problems. So, they end up doing exactly what they would have had to do, but they don't get used to do that until they've had to walk all the way there. Plot hole.

I realize their reasoning behind sending the hobits, but in the end, what ends up happening is exactly what you say they wanted to avoid by taking the eagles. So, taking the eagles or not would have had the exact same outcome. Why didn't they just send a full frontal attack and have the eagles go around all sneaky like? Furthermore, Sauron would have not known they have the ring. He see's it when it is worn. Have an eagle carry it in a pouch or something. Is Sauron going to just attack a random flying eagle?

If you don't see that as a plot hole, then there is no point continuing this conversation.

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The Joker was either a precog, or there are tons and tons of plot holes in his planning. Let me list them:

1) How did he know the exact time that the buses were coming by, and why didn't the bus behind him call the cops immediately instead of ignoring him.
2) How did the Joker know exactly how long the mayor's eulogy would go on for in order to set the timer to allow them the opportunity to kill the mayor?
3) How did the Joker know which street that the helicopter would go down and exactly how low the helicopter would be flying so that they could shoot it down? Seems awfully lucky he was passing down that street at that exact same height. Did the Joker just happen to have hundreds of people waiting on top of buildings in a 15 block radius just in case the helicopter happened to show?
4) When the Joker planted the bomb on his subordinate, how did he know he wouldn't be right next to the guy or if he was far enough away that he wouldn't blow himself up as well?
5) How did the Joker get hundreds of gallons of fuel and explosives into a hospital within 6 hours? I don't think he could have planned that Harvey would have survived with burns and done this days in advance. And even if he did, how does someone in a hospital not run into the explosives in that time?
6) Same for the boat, but I think they could hide that a lot easier than they could in a hospital.

Everyone always mentions the fact that the Joker is still upstairs when Batman is falling to the ground as the plot hole, but it's feasible Joker just immediately leaves then. Those are the bigger plot holes in my mind.

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The Dark Knight is one of my all time favorite movies. That said, while I don't agree with all of this, I can probably elaborate on some things.

I have to agree about 2 and 3. To expand on 4, I'm still not sure how it was such a clean escape. The bomb took out everyone around him but left him unharmed. It also gave him enough time to go get Lau and escape easily. Unless I'm missing something, this seems pretty miraculous.

I don't have a huge issue with 1, 5, or 6. Why couldn't he have planted bombs in the hospital earlier?

I would also throw in the whole sequence with Harvey and Rachel. How did the Joker time things so perfectly that Batman would be able to save one person but the police would not be able to save the other? That's not exactly a big window of time. Hell, how did he know Batman would be the one interrogating him?