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re: Poling skiffs in Louisiana

Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:07 am to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:07 am to
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This can be true in a lot of cases.

Hogwash.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16650 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:15 am to
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I'm currently trying to find a compromise between a rig that could ride up the 1' creek that leads to gravel pit lakes I fish in fresh water but also could get me safely to the biloxi marsh (crossing 7 miles of MS Sound which can get just as rough as the rest of the gul


Are you mainly going to be running a trolling motor or do you want to play the sub 6-8" game? If all your going to be doing is running the trolling motor you don't need to worry about drafting less than a foot. They make plenty of hulls that can draft around 1 foot and take open water but they aren't poling skiffs. In truth you don't need a poling skiff to sight fish, but if all your doing is sight fishing they are excellent hulls.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17372 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:17 am to
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best compromise i've found is the 13' boston whaler skiff i've got. those buggers are unsinkable. i set it up with a 25 2-stroke on it, a 12 volt trolling motor and a push pole.


Carolina skiffs are the ones that draw me back in to thinking I don't need two different boats. Just when I think it's gonna work I read about the seas getting up in a hurry I lose my nerve.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:17 am to
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Hogwash.


Over the last 36 months my maintenance cost is zero dollars.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:18 am to
The sole reason I ever got a kayak was so I could fish more. I was living in an apartment at LSU and could only go fishing with my dad in his boat. Which meant not very often. So I bought a cheap kayak. Yes, I kept it in my bedroom (because management bitched when I kept it outside ). Turned out I really loved it and got a nicer kayak and fished tournaments all across the GoM. Now, I'm looking to upgrade a little. Considering a solo skiff because storage is still tight for me, and I'm not paying for a boat stall somewhere.

I think the answer to your question has been answered though and there's usually just too much open water to cross here
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:20 am to
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Over the last 36 months my maintenance cost is zero dollars.

What about other costs?

If you want to compare the cost of owning a kayak to the cost of owning a boat, you're fighting a losing battle. You know that.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 10:23 am
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1642 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:24 am to
I want an East Cape Glide as a second boat. You know anyone with one? I have a couple buddies that run the Fury and Vantage and love em, but I'm interested in something smaller and looking for opinions on the Glide
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17372 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:25 am to
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They make plenty of hulls that can draft around 1 foot and take open water but they aren't poling skiffs.


Yeah, I'm not interested in spending a ton of time in 6" water, I just need to get it up the river. The gravel pit lakes I'm talking about are just huge 10 acre+ holes dug out of a 2' deep creek. Great for fishing and camping but we have to take jon boats to get in there. I spend a lot of time bass fishing, so idealy the boat would have good casting platforms and perform well in freshwater trolling situations. The rub is that the inshore fishing I do involves running to barrier islands where the seas can get nasty in a hurry. I know it's a stretch to ask a boat to do both but I can't realistically buy both.
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
6885 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:26 am to
I would love a skiff as I mainly love to sight fish 80% of the time and trout fish the marsh when they're inside. It's hard to find a decent center console setup for a reasonable price, this has me looking for aluminum center consoles.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81895 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:27 am to
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I see people spend $5k on a Hobie kayak but turn around and scoff at the idea of a micro skiff
I have a yak because it can be thrown in the back of my truck by 1 person, and I can take it just about anywhere. From a pic search of a poling skiff, I'd get zero use out of one. I'd just use my bay boat instead.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5320 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:27 am to
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best compromise i've found is the 13' boston whaler skiff


My brother has a 15' whaler and it rides very well in open water, but still gets into pretty shallow stuff as well.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:36 am to
I miss my Ranger Banshee immensely. I turned a profit when selling it and used the proceeds to buy a Hobie PA (was moving, but figured I could leave it at my cousin's camp and use it when I came back). I spent one summer with the yak and although you can catch a lot of fish out of it, it just wasn't close to the same as my boat. I could cover so much more ground. I could legit float in 6" so I was going anywhere a yak could. And as far as open water, it wasn't always fun, but I certainly didn't feel like I would die. I've crossed Lake Decade on a windy day and handled the chop much better than bigger Carolina Skiffs. It was noticeable how much drier and comfortable we were.

One thing I do have to say is that I think poling isn't as easy in our marsh. The muddy bottoms don't lend to quite as efficient of a push as a sandy bottom does. But it is possible. Problem in my boat was I was the only one who could pole (and not that well). I tried my hardest, but it isn't easy to pole and cast.

I would suggest anyone who strictly fishes in marsh get one for sure. I'd take this anywhere someone would take a 18' aluminum hull. If you duck hunt and other things, I understand a surface drive for the winter. But otherwise, these boats dominate. I could fish three guys hanging off one side of that boat and had no concerns of tipping. Just much better stability than any aluminum boat I've been in.


Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16650 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:42 am to
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not interested in spending a ton of time in 6" water, I just need to get it up the river


Tunnel hull boats with a jackplate would be the way to go there. I would look to Texas for that kind of boat.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:43 am to
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I have a yak because it can be thrown in the back of my truck by 1 person, and I can take it just about anywhere. From a pic search of a poling skiff, I'd get zero use out of one. I'd just use my bay boat instead.


It was much easier for me to take my boat then it was to get the yak to the launch by myself. Only thing that didn't permanently stay in the boat was rods. Threw them in, launched by myself in less than 5 minutes, parked, then went on my way. Never spend more than $10 in fuel.

Yak took some dragging, taking everything out to throw in the truck, etc.. I spend a lot more time on the water compared to the parking lot with my boat. And I could get anywhere a yak could float for the most part.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1642 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:45 am to
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Ranger Banshee


I've spent time on a polling platform on a few boats, and the Banshee is not exactly the easiest to pole. Even though a Maverick 18 HPX is a little longer and heavier it seems to pole better, especially in a cross wind. Consider a different brand before you get back into a skiff if polling is your thing
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:49 am to
How do you pole and fish at the same time?
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1642 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:52 am to
Not easy, but there are push pole holders and rod holders in use when you sneak up on a school. Takes long casts. You also take turns during the day.
Typically not a one person type of day.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17372 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:53 am to
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Maverick 18 HPX


This is the exact boat that inspired my first post about flats skiffs being just as expensive as a bigger water boat and most people opting for the later. Damn things are 40K used. You almost have to be a sight/fly fishing guide to justify that in south LA, or have a lot to spend on your toys.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:53 am to
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How do you pole and fish at the same time?


First, if I was fishing with someone else, I was just as excited for them to catch one while I poled to it. Catching it myself wouldn't have been any more fun.

But if you look in the pic of my boat. I had a rod holder angled down to get the rod out of my way while poling. If I saw a fish, I had a clamp to put the pole in, then I'd pick up the rod to cast. Wasn't easy, but doable. There's also gadgets you can wear on your belt that will hold your rod behind you, then you can stick your pole in it when you cast.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:55 am to
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I was just as excited for them to catch one while I poled to it. Catching it myself wouldn't have been any more fun.
This is how I feel when I'm putting friends on fish in my boat. I consider it an assist on the stat sheet.

Gotcha. I've never been on one and they didn't seem like a solo fishing kind of boat.
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