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re: George Lucas disappointed with the lack of creativity in The Force Awakens

Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:37 pm to
Because the prequels sucked even when you don't nitpick them for tiny errors. But people do it anyway because they hate Lucas and the prequels so much.

People are nitpicking with TFA because they are just looking for a reason to hate on it.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:37 pm to
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Just felt the need to be a prick on a Friday afternoon?


Yes, sorry.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:39 pm to
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There was more creativity with the Force in the scene where Kylo is trying to get inside Rey's mind than there was in the entire Prequel Trilogy.





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Not to mention Lucas rips off Empire for all its worth when he made "Attack of the Clones"


It's funny to see this and then see some claim TFA didn't rip off ANH. At least AOTC changes up how some of the key events take place. TFA just used the same devices
Posted by MightyYat
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:39 pm to
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Here is the thing. While the prequels are bad, it is universally accepted to completely nit pick and tear apart the prequels. Whereas TFA, if one even simply points out a problem, the response is "Why are you NITPICKING STAR WARS? Do you not like fun??" And yes I agree TFA is better than the prequels but the hypocrisy is astounding.


That's because the prequels were piles of shite that Lucas tried to do entirely too much with. TFA was perfect to get back on track.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:42 pm to
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People are nitpicking with TFA because they are just looking for a reason to hate on it.


This is exactly what I'm talking about.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:45 pm to
frick George Lucas
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:50 pm to
Prequels are terrible.
TFA is good.

It's not possible to nitpick a shitty movie.

Nitpicking a good movie is annoying.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:52 pm to
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Here is the thing. While the prequels are bad, it is universally accepted to completely nit pick and tear apart the prequels. Whereas TFA, if one even simply points out a problem, the response is "Why are you NITPICKING STAR WARS? Do you not like fun??" And yes I agree TFA is better than the prequels but the hypocrisy is astounding.


The prequels have fundamental flaws. For 1 a story that makes little to no sense and it contradicts much of what was said in the originals. With those types of flaws, it is natural to then nit pick every little thing. I don't know anyone that ever said the originals or TFA were perfect, flawless movies.

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It's funny to see this and then see some claim TFA didn't rip off ANH


there is a fine line i suppose between paying homage and "ripping off" but from what i've seen/heard most agree TFA was basically remake or echoed Star Wars.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:55 pm to
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there is a fine line i suppose between paying homage and "ripping off" but from what i've seen/heard most agree TFA was basically remake or echoed Star Wars.



I wasn't the one who used the phrase rip off. If one is to claim AOTC "rips off" ESB, then TFA should be held to that same standard.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35612 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:06 pm to
I will never understand why people give a shite about what that guy thinks. It was his choice to sell the rights. Nobody forced him. Just take your fat stack of cash and shut the frick up.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:06 pm to
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I wasn't the one who used the phrase rip off


no, but you did say you find it funny when someone says TFA didn't rip off Star Wars, which no one claimed in this thread anyway.

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If one is to claim AOTC "rips off" ESB, then TFA should be held to that same standard.


well again, there is a fine line between paying homage and ripping off. And maybe it is in the eye of the beholder or maybe in intent. No one is hiding from the fact that TFA echos Star Wars (hell, Jedi did as well). Didn't Abrams say as much? That's why it's not "ripping off" since they are up front about what the intention was.

I wouldn't say Lucas "ripped off" The Hidden Fortress with Star Wars, or Metropolis with some of the look for example since he says those are inspirations. Did he "rip off" Empire with AOTC, I don't think he's paying homage.

In any event, since it is Lucas that is complaining about lack of creativity in TFA, it is fair to cite examples of where he did the same in the prequels without have to add the caveat that TFA "copied" Star Wars.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:07 pm to
Everybody bitches about Lucas.

He gave you Star Wars you ungrateful shits.

So what if he made some bad movies. It's his fricking story to frick with.

He didn't have to sell to Disney. He could've shut down the franchise and told the world to go and frick itself.

Instead he sold everything so that it could continue (and gave the money to charity).

He's earned the right to bitch about Star Wars. It's his kid.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:10 pm to
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no, but you did say you find it funny when someone says TFA didn't rip off Star Wars, which no one claimed in this thread anyway.


this isn't the first Star Wars thread dude


Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:14 pm to
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Everybody bitches about Lucas.

He gave you Star Wars you ungrateful shits.

So what if he made some bad movies. It's his fricking story to frick with.

He didn't have to sell to Disney. He could've shut down the franchise and told the world to go and frick itself.

Instead he sold everything so that it could continue (and gave the money to charity).

He's earned the right to bitch about Star Wars. It's his kid.



All of this


Especially this
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He didn't have to sell to Disney. He could've shut down the franchise and told the world to go and frick itself.

Instead he sold everything so that it could continue (and gave the money to charity).



Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59164 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:25 pm to
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this isn't the first Star Wars thread dude


really? wow, didn't know that

Still haven't seen anyone say TFA was 100% original with no similarities to Star Wars or Jedi, while claiming that Lucus ripped off Empire with AOTC.

What i have noticed is there are some posters that seem to find it contradictory for people to like TFA while also hating the prequels. And like to chime in every TFA thread to point that out.

This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 2:50 pm
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35612 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:26 pm to
Lucas has a right to his opinion as we all do. It just doesn't make a lot of sense what he's doing right now. He chose who to sell the rights to. He could have done anything with it, he chose Disney. They made something that was a beautiful throwback to the originals (which is what everyone wanted). And now he comes out and says it's not creative enough? He might as well say his original trilogy wasn't creative enough. Is he calling his prequels creative? Is Jar Jar Binks creative? Are trade negotiations interesting or creative? How about political bickering? Not IMO.

With that being said, I couldn't care less about what George Lucas thinks about TFA. I couldn't care less about what Richard Donner thinks about the new Superman movies, or Burton with the new Batman. Their time has passed and the only way they would agree with the new movies is if they would have made them themselves. As I said though, they have a right to their opinion, and I have a right to not give a shite.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101931 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:27 pm to
George sure does seem like a bitter old curmudgeon these days.

He needs a snickers.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35250 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:46 pm to
This is very telling, yet not unexpected. George Lucas seems to think that creativity is solely a function of different visual aspects (spaceships, planets, etc.) or a film. While they are aspects of creativity, this narrow view seems to be related to the major criticisms of the prequels (too much focus on visuals, diminish focus on storytelling and character development, visual emphasis made it hard on actors, etc.).
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:49 pm to
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George Lucas disappointed with the lack of creativity in The Force Awakens


Honestly...any good will I ever had for that guy having grown up with his movies was tossed out the window the minute I saw this bullshite on screen...

LINK

What in the ever living frick?!?

So wait...if this is what The Force is, why didn't Ben tell Luke that way back on Tatooine when Luke asked him?

LINK

16 seconds. It took Ben SIXTEEN SECONDS to tell the fricking world what The Force is in enough detail to where generations of movie goers were completely satisfied with the answer... 20 years later, Lucas pulls this symbiotic life-form horseshite out of his arse, completely undermining his own mythology.

Seriously...frick this guy.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:51 pm to
Didn't George Lucas make Boba Fett's dad a major character? Yeah, he can STFU about running out of ideas.
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