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re: Oil stocks...are you buying?

Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

Honestly, it depends on the person. I think that it is a great time to buy if you are a good stock picker. Options almost seem like a better play right now since it's all speculative anyways.



I have no idea about it, I've just been watching prices, and have some money I could invest.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73835 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:58 pm to
Good luck trying to time the exact bottom. This is a great Time to be DCAing regardless what happens. Bottom line is if you buy a ton of shares around these current numbers and hold until we get close to where we were before you'll be raking in capital appreciation. Not too mention dividends.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55670 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:02 pm to
I'm about to get more Cop
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
647 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:24 pm to
What is everyone's obsession with COP? XOM, RDS and CVX are all more diversified and none of them have sliced their dividend...
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80859 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:28 pm to
I own it...I don't understand the love either. Oil will be low for years. COP no longer has their refinery operations (now P66). The refining side is what is benefiting with the low oil price; COP is fully exposed.

Way too many wells are currently tapped and can start up almost overnight if demand starts to exceed supply next year. Hence, I don't see oil going above 50-60 for a few years.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10248 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:38 pm to
I have more CVX. I wish I had more SLB. I'd consider more COP, or a stock like it to ride up eventually, but for a core energy holding to buy and mostly forget, I prefer CVX.

And honestly, I have no idea what's all inside BRK.A, and the mutual funds I have, so I suspect I indirectly own more COP anyway. I've never looked at that stuff.

I've been buying a little bit more CVX. My instinct is to try to better time the bottom, and buy a chunk then, but I've been trying to do more just buy and forget, so I've been buying small amounts of CVX on pull backs.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8143 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:54 am to
quote:

What is everyone's obsession with COP? XOM, RDS and CVX are all more diversified and none of them have sliced their dividend...


When you buy a stock and it tanks, you need to justify to yourself that buying more is the smart play.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10248 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:23 am to
Crack spread again this morning as far as I can tell. Can any of you guys involved in the future's end of it, or the oil business let me know if I'm reading this incorrectly please?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
73835 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:38 am to
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When you buy a stock and it tanks, you need to justify to yourself that buying more is the smart play.




riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, everybody here just acquired these stocks to day trade and/or forgot to put stops.

No way in hell they have owned these solid energy stocks for quite some time reaping the dividends and just want to stick it out and get some capital apreciation thus buying more in this downturn.

but please continue with your narrative. It is amusing!
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 9:40 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
73835 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:48 am to
quote:

What is everyone's obsession with COP? XOM, RDS and CVX are all more diversified and none of them have sliced their dividend...




It's been discussed in the past ad infinitum. You want a company to make it by cutting the dividend for awhile or would you prefer a risky, volatile company that jacks up the dividend yield to astronomical numbers to try to lure in money in a short amount of time like plenty on the bubble now? go look at some on dividata.

I own RDSB and have stated as to why before as well.

Look, If you do not like COP don't buy! real simple. I've had it a long time and will continue to hold. Those other stocks are great as well. Knock yourself out!
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
73835 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:49 am to
quote:

I'm about to get more Cop




I'll grab some more RDSB soon.
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
647 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Fat Bastard


defensive much baw?



Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55670 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:03 am to
Cop is a long term hold and is at a great price right now, when I'm ready to retire it will be worth more than double what I'm buying it for and should have a nice dividend.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:17 am to
White Perch,

I've been hitting CPE for almost 2 years now at numbers between $4-$10 per share. I bought a bit at $6 today. For 2016 I'm sitting on quite a lot. Last year I was buying and selling in 10 days for a $1 swing in share price.

Bought CLNE and PBR this week. Not new positions in either.
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7175 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:27 am to
quote:

Jp1LSU


I'll buy CPE when it gets to about 6.00 and sell anywhere from 6.30+
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:25 am to
Officially IN on CVX 34 shares at $85/share. 5% yield. Very long term hold. (I'm 23).

Looking forward to the ride fellas.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73835 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:05 pm to
COP and XOM are wells fargo's top energy stocks

quote:

With earnings season largely over for the E&P and integrated energy sector, Wells Fargo’s Roger Read and his team are adjusting their top picks in the category. Exxon Mobil (XOM) and ConocoPhillips (COP) make the cut, while Occidental Petroleum (OXY) does not.

Gerald Herbert/Associated Press

Occidental is still a Buy-rated stocks for Read, but the shares are up more than 20% in the past month, nearly five times the S&P 500’s performance, prompting the removal from the Top Picks List.

By contrast, Read raised his valuation range for Exxon to $89 to $98, citing its large size and robust capitalization as assets that will help the firm in a time of capital constraints in the sector. As for ConocoPhillips, he writes that it’s “not out of the woods,” given that he estimates it will outspend cash flows this year, and it will likely be hit by credit downgrades. Nonetheless, he sees a “clear path” for the company to generate free cash flow in 2017.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:43 am to
Complete annihilation this week
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10248 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:47 am to
Quietly Brent starting to push the $40's starting with September delivery.

Any chart guys on here have any insight? It seems to me, and I'm not a chart guy, we're hitting some sort of equilibrium?

Again where I'm at with it is that I thought the $20's were the absolute bottom, but I have no idea for how long we could trade sideways. I notice rig count is still decreasing.

I'm guessing when it takes off, it's going to take off in a big hurry.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8349 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 8:09 am to
Hope none of y'all are still holding/playing Linn. Looks like they are delaying filing the 10-K and starting to throw out the "going concern" talk.
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