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Posted on 11/21/07 at 9:27 pm to tigger1
quote:I've already written Myles Brand about it. Hopefully those cheating bastards at Carlisle will be on probation soon.
Also Thorpe played for Carlisle 1907-1908 and then again from 1911-1912. This is after he went to Haskell Indian Nations University before 1904 and then first went to Carlisle in 1904.
Posted on 11/21/07 at 9:32 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:There's probably some truth to that. I have a rating system that doesn't account for margin of victory (I hold it to be a self-evident truth that margin of victory will not be counted, and I will not argue for or against it
you're discounting the dominance of LSU that year.
), so there's a little stat/bias there. I wish I could go back in time and organize some more north/south games back then; maybe I'd be surprised at some of the results. Posted on 11/21/07 at 9:39 pm to Doc Fenton
How did teams travel to away games way back then? Horse and buggy? Anyone know?
Posted on 11/21/07 at 9:40 pm to pleading the fifth
I'm pretty sure most travel was done by train.
Posted on 11/21/07 at 9:44 pm to WikiTiger
quote:
I'm pretty sure most travel was done by train.
Oh. Of course.
Posted on 11/21/07 at 9:58 pm to udtiger
quote:
A review shows that some organization awarded an NC to LSU in:
1908 (same organization "split" the award with Penn)
1935 (same organization "split" the award with TCU)
1936
1958
Minn is the recognized champion in 35 and 36 but did not win the Big Ten in 36 and was co-champ in 35
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:10 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
Teams traveled by train, and they scheduled all the games they could to fill out a trip.
Say Georgia comes to Louisiana, it would play Tulane and LSU, one on one day and the next the next day.
LSU played many games in NO back those days.
Say Georgia comes to Louisiana, it would play Tulane and LSU, one on one day and the next the next day.
LSU played many games in NO back those days.
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:28 pm to tigger1
Really interesting how all of this has changed so much.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:02 pm to tigger1
As far as players playing baseball for money, I read A biography of Jim Thorpe about 45 years ago and this fact was well discussed as an "excuse". Many spent years after the fact trying to get his Olympic metals back that he was stripped of due to him being a professional.
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:I think it is ours, hands down..we should respect our past history & list it as a championship...
That kind of stuff, while historically sort of neat, is really silly to try to "claim" in this day and age.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:08 pm to tigernchicago
You bumped this because you read a biography about Jim Thorpe?
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:12 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:
Doc Fenton
if you hadn't accepted that wad of cash and that Model-T we'd have another MNC!
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:13 pm to WikiTiger
2 years, 2 months, & 12 days
Is that a record?
Is that a record?
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:13 pm to WikiTiger
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:41 pm to 800lbgorilla
quote:
I think we have a legit claim to 7 titles.
I agree however to only officially claim the '58 and '03.
So Ohio State is the 07 Champion?
Posted on 2/4/10 at 12:08 am to SouthernMan
There is no doubt Jim was a professional...
he played pro ball in North Carolina for 2 years (1909-10) and while at Carlisle in 1907 and 08 he was paid money to play football.
All of Pop's Indian teams were paid until the end of the 1909 season.
The pay for football was $10.50 a week, but Pop also allowed credit lines at local stores; so a player like Thorpe could make much more than the near $500 a season he got in North Carolina.
BTW that near $500 Thorpe made comes out to near $30 a week, which is well over expense money.
Heisman paid players to come in and play agianst his team and was said, but never proved he paid his players.
Everyone in the off season played baseball (including most coaches), and under the rules your were allowed to make expense money.
he played pro ball in North Carolina for 2 years (1909-10) and while at Carlisle in 1907 and 08 he was paid money to play football.
All of Pop's Indian teams were paid until the end of the 1909 season.
The pay for football was $10.50 a week, but Pop also allowed credit lines at local stores; so a player like Thorpe could make much more than the near $500 a season he got in North Carolina.
BTW that near $500 Thorpe made comes out to near $30 a week, which is well over expense money.
Heisman paid players to come in and play agianst his team and was said, but never proved he paid his players.
Everyone in the off season played baseball (including most coaches), and under the rules your were allowed to make expense money.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 5:25 am to tigger1
Claim them all...
Posted on 2/4/10 at 7:03 am to SouthernMan
quote:
I think we have a legit claim to 7 titles.
I agree however to only officially claim the '58 and '03.
So Ohio State is the 07 Champion?
Silly wabbit, we cant claim the 1908 tittle because saban didnt coach us that year. Every one knows he is the only LSU coach that counts
What a bunch of LOOSERS!!!
This post was edited on 2/4/10 at 7:04 am
Posted on 2/4/10 at 7:15 am to SouthernMan
quote:take a look when this thread was made and you'll realize that it was made before we played tOSU for the title
I think we have a legit claim to 7 titles.
I agree however to only officially claim the '58 and '03.
So Ohio State is the 07 Champion?
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