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1908 National Champions

Posted on 11/21/07 at 9:56 am
Posted by CajunT
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/21/07 at 9:56 am
Why don't we list the 1908 National Championship. Coach Wingard went 10-0. Here is the entire story.

Edgar R. Wingard is a former college football head coach. He coached five different teams from 1904 to 1918, including the University of Pittsburgh and Louisiana State University. His career record is 40-10-2. He also served as the head coach of the LSU Tigers baseball team from 1908-1909 and as first basketball coach in the history of LSU Tigers basketball in 1909.

In 1908 he led LSU to a 10-0-0 record. The Tigers were awarded the national championship by the National Championship Foundation, although the school does not officially claim that season as a national championship season.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:05 am to
hahah I wrote that article for Wikipedia.

How about you quote the source!
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:06 am to
By the way, the National Championship Foundation awarded LSU that title retroactively.

Personally, I think LSU has a legit claim to that year's title, however, LSU isn't like Alabama and doesn't need to claim everything.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:08 am to
Here's who we played that year....not exactly the hardest in terms of strength of schedule. Haha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1908_LSU_Tigers_football_team#1908
This post was edited on 11/21/07 at 10:09 am
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:10 am to
Allowed 11 total points all year though... thats impressive!!!
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101799 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Why don't we list the 1908 National Championship.


Because we're not Bama or Ole Piss?

That kind of stuff, while historically sort of neat, is really silly to try to "claim" in this day and age.

I'm content "claiming" the two we've got, and the one we're about to get.
Posted by 800lbgorilla
Member since Oct 2007
2331 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:15 am to
I think we have a legit claim to 7 titles.

I agree however to only officially claim the '58 and '03.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51945 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Here's who we played that year....not exactly the hardest in terms of strength of schedule. Haha


That was pretty standard back then. The "real" champion back then had a tied game to Carlisle Indian Industrial School.

Also, even if it might have been a easier schedule, at least we dominated enough to make up for it:

LSU 442-11 Points scored/against
Penn 215-18
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101799 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Here's who we played that year....not exactly the hardest in terms of strength of schedule. Haha


The first game that year, was against the health club, where I used to work out.

Hey, we were able to hold the Tigers to forty points.
This post was edited on 11/21/07 at 10:25 am
Posted by CajunT
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
2285 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:24 am to
Sorry about the cite, I got it on an email without. I think it would be cool to honor the 1908 team next year since it will be 100 years.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Sorry about the cite


Dude I was just picking on you about the citation. But I do think its really cool that a short article I wrote on Wikipedia is being emailed around. What's the story behind that?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99473 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:34 am to
Here...

A review shows that some organization awarded an NC to LSU in:

1908 (same organization "split" the award with Penn)
1935 (same organization "split" the award with TCU)
1936
1958
1962
2003

As noted in an earlier post, to claim any NC other than the 1958 and 2003 would make us look as pathetic as Ole Miss (and as delusional as Alabama).

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12507 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:35 am to
quote:

The "real" champion back then had a tied game to Carlisle Indian Industrial School.


Isn't that Jim Thorpe's alma mater?

Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Isn't that Jim Thorpe's alma mater?


Sure is....and if Penn played his team to a tie then that's pretty impressive.
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 10:41 am to
quote:

The "real" champion back then had a tied game to Carlisle Indian Industrial School.


Yea, that team was coached by Pop Warner and had Jim Thorpe on the team. Pretty impressive!
Posted by enginerous
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
206 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 11:01 am to
My Great Uncle played on the 1908 team. Good stuff.

Posted by Lil Man
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
1488 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 11:30 am to
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Allowed 11 total points all year though... thats impressive!!!


that means 4 safeties: give up 0 touchdowns, 1 field goal, and 4 safeties all year. our offense was our only threat to score points against us!
Posted by bayouh2o
Arizona
Member since Sep 2006
904 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 11:30 am to
11/10/1908* VS Baylor @ Baton Rouge, LA W 89-0


This post was edited on 11/21/07 at 11:32 am
Posted by LSUPIMPRGB
BR
Member since Nov 2005
500 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 11:47 am to
Hell 10 games in 53 days impresses me.
This post was edited on 11/21/07 at 11:48 am
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
15010 posts
Posted on 11/21/07 at 11:53 am to
How about that 1903 team?

Was that a monumental collapse or what?!

Going from undefeated and unscored upon to winless and scoring zero points!
Gee-Zussss!!
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