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Gun recommendations for my wife
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:55 pm
She wants a gun to carry on her/keep in her car. I want to get her the Glock 43, but concerned about the lack of safety and her lack of overall experience. She also said she doesn't want to spend more than $400. What do you guys recommend?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 7:13 pm to Austin Cajun
There is a thread in the sticky FAQ thread at the top of the board...
Posted on 12/20/15 at 7:27 pm to Austin Cajun
Whatever you'd like to be shot with.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 8:14 pm to Austin Cajun
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I want to get her the Glock 43
Let her shoot a couple of different guns and let her choose what she is most comfortable carrying/shooting.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 8:50 pm to Austin Cajun
My advice...... let HER choose what she likes and is comfortable with.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:10 pm to Austin Cajun
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lack of experience
Double action revolver. Pull trigger=bang.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:39 pm to Austin Cajun
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but concerned about the lack of safety
This is a good thing. I dont understand why everyone insists on having a safety? Is it because all of us that hunt grew up with that drilled into us? IF it's a protection gun, her holster and trigger finger are her safeties. Under $400 that can be carried, would look at a Shield or a Kahr CM9 if you can find them for that price. I would still prefer a larger 9mm because they are/would be more pleasing for her to shoot and practice with. Those pocket guns suck arse to shoot.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 10:22 pm to Austin Cajun
38 special revolver. Basically foolproof.
The original "point and click" interface...
The original "point and click" interface...
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:34 pm to Austin Cajun
Springfield XDs is worth a look. I also agree with whoever said to let her pick it out after she's had time with some options.
Don't worry about it not having a safety. For self defense, that's almost always a positive.
Don't worry about it not having a safety. For self defense, that's almost always a positive.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:04 am to DisplacedBuckeye
She's a female. Whatever she picks out, she'll end up regret getting an want something else
Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:03 am to Austin Cajun
I bought my wife the s&w airweight 38 special and she doesn't like it. Said the trigger pull is too hard for her and the recoil hurts her hand. So I'd let her shoot some different calibers to see what she is comfortable with. My wife shot the bersa 380 and the ruger lcp 380 and liked it. I bought her the ruger for christmas...and a glock 19 for myself 
Posted on 12/21/15 at 6:41 am to wickowick
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My advice...... let HER choose what she likes and is comfortable with.
+10000
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There is a thread in the sticky FAQ thread at the top of the board...
It kinda sucks though.
For the OP, I'll quote a bookmarked post I made a while back:
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Let her choose her own gun!
She's more likely to use it and be confident with it if it's something she chose herself. Too many men will buy a handgun and just throw it in his wife's hand, "here, use this." This is a very bad way of going about it.
Now, with that being said, something else must be answered:
What does she plan to use it for? Home protection? Car gun? Carry gun?
And let me get this out of the way before I continue: for human targets, 9mm = 40 = 45 in terms of mythical "knockdown power." I choose 9mm because you get the most ammo in your magazine. On to the rest...
For any shooter, a larger gun (dimensionally, not caliber) is ALWAYS easier to shoot. A metal-framed full sized gun is even easier to shoot since it weighs more and negates one of the big barriers with new shooters (felt recoil). In this regard, weight isn't a terrible thing. But I always suggest a full sized 9mm to any new buyer regardless of the buyer's intended purpose. If he/she wants a smaller gun to carry he/she can get it later. But having the "base" for a good home defense handgun, i.e. full sized 9mm, is a great place to start. You get a full grip, a full length barrel, a large sight radius, more weight (less recoil), a lighter recoil spring (easier to rack), and a larger magazine. These all make a full sized gun very easy to shoot. Add on a light under the rail (weight directly under the muzzle) and it will be even easier to shoot with less felt recoil.
Once the new shooter has mastered and trained well with a full sized handgun, he/she can work his/her way "up" to a smaller gun. The logic sounds backwards but it's quite basic actually. The smaller the gun, the sharper the recoil. Getting your wife a tiny 38 revolver may not be what's best for her because they are insanely difficult to shoot accurately. They make for a great belly gun but they have extremely long and heavy trigger pulls and have no sights to speak of. But, if she doesn't train often and learn to clear semi auto malfunctions or has difficulty with the controls, it may be easier. But anyone that tells you a woman cannot rack a slide is wrong. Yes, it is harder for them, but they are usually not using a proper racking method or the gun is tiny and has a stiff spring that takes practice to manipulate. Point your thumb toward your chest, gripping the slide behind the ejection port with the base of your palm and the tips of your fingers. Simultaneously grip the slide while pushing the gun from the grip of your hand on the slide. This will cause the slide to move all the way to the rear and slam forward on its own weight. This is the best way to properly rack a round into the chamber while utilizing large muscle groups (chest, shoulders) instead of isolating the forearms. Do not pull the slide back and push it forward - it does not need your assistance.
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For carry guns, most people usually have a rotation of guns, myself included. But I would say the best place to start in terms of a carry gun would be a single stack 9mm. The old adage that you hear is, "carry the largest gun you can comfortably carry." For most people, a full sized, full-gripped, double stack handgun will become cumbersome to carry and eventually be left at home for most people. What's the good in a carry gun if it isn't on you? This is where a single stack 9mm comes in handy - thinness, lightweight, and maximum ammo for its size (versus 40 and 45). Yes, it is more difficult to shoot than a full sized gun and carries a smaller magazine, but its intended purpose is for carry. It is ideal for this role. Rather than having the same gun do everything, having a gun for each role is better, albeit a bit more expensive.
But, for women, their tighter-fitting clothing makes finding a carry gun more difficult. There are other carry methods for women but I still think the best for any person is inside-the-waistband carry. There are a lot of blogs that deal with women's carry (cornered cat, a girl and a gun) and know more about the topic than I do. But I do know they can be successfully carried this way. "But what about purse carry?" you ask...
I have never been a big fan of off-body carry. While pocket carry and inside-the-waistband carry are the two best, purse carry allows the carrier to put a larger gun in a convenient carrying case. The problem is that the gun is not in your possession and is simply out in the open hidden in a container. There was a story recently of a baby accidentally shooting his/her mother in the head with a gun carried in a purse. While purse carrying is better than not carrying at all, it can be seen as worse with a risk like this. Plus if you've ever seen a purse snatching live or on video, they are EXTREMELY violent. Imagine trying to retain control of your weapon if you're being drug around by your purse strap. It's a lose-lose.
So there's my suggestion - a full sized 9mm. I would keep it simple and avoid some guns that have safeties since they require more training. But ultimately her preference will beat anything out. Finding a gun that has a thin grip taper will ultimately be the most comfortable for someone with smaller hands. A few good examples from the big-player manufacturers for a first 9mm are:
S&W M&P
Springfield XD
Glock 17/19
Ruger SR9
Walther PPQ
HK VP9
FN FNS9
If these make her arms tired from holding for too long, then getting a "compact" may be slightly better. "Compact" simply means that the grip and slide are shorter than a full sized gun. The gun itself is typically still somewhat large and will produce more recoil than a full sized gun. But they are still easy to handle. Of the ones I listed up there^, nearly all of them have a compact counterpart.
If you'd prefer she'd have something lighter-recoiling that is heavier, there are a few metal-framed handguns to consider. They have a few more controls than most polymer guns and are hammer-fired, meaning the hammer that strikes the firing pin is visible on the outside of the gun. Some have safeties and decockers that require a bit more training but can be learned:
Sig Sauer P226/228/229
Beretta 92/96
CZ 75/P01
1911
All of these can be had in 9mm. If you step up the cartridge to 40 or 45, expect a bit more felt recoil.
If she prefers the simplicity of a revolver, I would suggest:
Ruger GP100 (4 inch)
S&W 686P (4 inch)
These are great full sized 357 revolvers that shoot even softer with 38 specials. Again, these are not snub-nose revolvers. The triggers will be better, the grip will be larger and more comfortable, and they will have much better sights. Plus, they will be either 6 or 7 shot instead of 5 giving you more ammo for the fight. If she doesn't plan on carrying her revolver, get her something full sized. I cannot stress this enough.
Sorry to the OB for the length. I'm book marking this to use later since the question of getting the wife a handgun comes up often.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:07 am to bapple
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I'm book marking this to use later since the question of getting the wife a handgun comes up often.
Nah. Not more than 4 or 5 times per week (usually).
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:51 am to Ice Cream Sammich
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S&W Shield - 9mm
I just bought one for me - took it shooting this wknd, wife normally shoots her PK380 - think I will be buying a second shield - up to this point she was hesitant to shoot a compact 9mm because of recoil - shot about 200rds I shot 7 of those
Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:57 am to swanny297
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S&W Shield - 9mm
The budget price and Ferrari performance should make this pistol a no brainer for almost everyone. I bought one for my wife a few years ago and am about to get two more (one to replace my XDs and one for my MIL). I actually bought my sister the S&W 9c before the Shield debuted and I think its worth it for her to still pickup a Shield.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:17 am to swanny297
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up to this point she was hesitant to shoot a compact 9mm because of recoil
Recoil shyness and muzzle blast are the two biggest barriers for new shooters to break through. The easier you make both of those at first, the easier it will be for her to shoot well and comfortably in the future.
This is why the Shield is not a great first gun for someone, especially a new shooter. But if you start the person on a full sized gun and let he/she build a skillset, it will be exponentially easier for that person to tame the recoil and shoot well.
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