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Why do you want to fire Les, because I don't get it.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:14 pm
Full disclosure, I'm a Gator fan. I'm really surprised that these past 3 games have driven you all to want to fire Miles. It's not like he's Richt, 2 SEC titles and a Natty and playing for another. Not sure who you think you are going to bring in to beat Saban. I don't see Fisher coming from FSU. Help me out here.
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:15 pm to Vindibudd
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these past 3 games have driven you all to want to fire Miles
Not even close to the whole story, but thanks for stopping by.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:15 pm to Vindibudd
Sigh
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:16 pm to Vindibudd
It's just a knee jerk reaction from an ignorant fan base. Nothing more than that, really.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:16 pm to Vindibudd
tell homeboy thanks for doing u know what
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:16 pm to Vindibudd
You're a FLorida fan, you wouldn't get it
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:17 pm to Vindibudd
19-12 in the SEC since 2012. I know it's hard for Florida fans to understand, but that's not good.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:17 pm to Vindibudd
If LSU doesn't have a series of ridiculous events happen in 2007 to get to the BCS game I'm not even sure if Miles would've made it to 2011.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:17 pm to Vindibudd
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Help me out here.
Imagine the Will Muschamp passing game, but multiply that by 5 years in a row.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:19 pm to Vindibudd
It's this simple...if you're LSU, can you (right now) hire someone that can deliver better results for the next 5-9 years than what Miles could do?
Based on what Miles has shown the last 3-5 years, many believe (right now) the answer is yes and the fear is that if you wait, the ability to recruit at the level we are currently recruiting will not be there and the selection of coaches will not be there.
2007, 20011, 110-32, etc doesn't matter
When a professional player gets cut or traded because he organization thinks they can get better production moving forward, nobody thinks it's a bad move. The packers moved on from Favre to Rodgers because they felt that would have better results. It doesn't diminish what Favre did nor does it mean Rodgers had to be better than what Favre WAS. It simply meant he had to be better than what Favre would have been if they kept him.
Based on what Miles has shown the last 3-5 years, many believe (right now) the answer is yes and the fear is that if you wait, the ability to recruit at the level we are currently recruiting will not be there and the selection of coaches will not be there.
2007, 20011, 110-32, etc doesn't matter
When a professional player gets cut or traded because he organization thinks they can get better production moving forward, nobody thinks it's a bad move. The packers moved on from Favre to Rodgers because they felt that would have better results. It doesn't diminish what Favre did nor does it mean Rodgers had to be better than what Favre WAS. It simply meant he had to be better than what Favre would have been if they kept him.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:20 pm to Vindibudd
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Full disclosure, I'm a Gator fan
Hence why you (and the rest of the SEC) want Miles to stay at LSU
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I'm really surprised that these past 3 games have driven you all to want to fire Miles
I'm really surprised that you actually think it's the last 3 games that have gotten Miles in hot water. They haven't helped, but it's been an arduous, slow, painful decline.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:21 pm to Vindibudd
I'll take this one.
Look, Gator... this is the deal. We are not being competitive in our own division anymore.
This isn't about winning. Les has won plenty of games.
This is about losing. He's losing to too many of our biggest opponents, and these people are in our own division. We are trending down right now in the SEC West, and it's time to make a change.
It's not that we don't love or appreciate Miles. We do. He's a wonderful man and we are proud of what he has done here.
But a lot of times people are sent packing from jobs because of what they haven't done lately, or because times have changed. Most people don't get the benefit of a $15 million parachute. Miles does. No one is walking away from this (predicted) event hurt. All parties might not get exactly what they want, but they will all certainly get something they need.
Look, Gator... this is the deal. We are not being competitive in our own division anymore.
This isn't about winning. Les has won plenty of games.
This is about losing. He's losing to too many of our biggest opponents, and these people are in our own division. We are trending down right now in the SEC West, and it's time to make a change.
It's not that we don't love or appreciate Miles. We do. He's a wonderful man and we are proud of what he has done here.
But a lot of times people are sent packing from jobs because of what they haven't done lately, or because times have changed. Most people don't get the benefit of a $15 million parachute. Miles does. No one is walking away from this (predicted) event hurt. All parties might not get exactly what they want, but they will all certainly get something they need.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:23 pm to Vindibudd
I think we are tired of having to wait for the stars to align for us to have a good team
Coming out of the gate we were a year in year out winner. We all think we can be that team
Now we have to wait on 4-5 year cycles for our team to be good?
He can't recruit QBs consistently enough to have someone older than a sophomore ready to take over when a 5th year senior leaves.
And lately when haven't been fighting to the end. We get behind and we don't take the risks you need to make a big comeback. No insides give vs Bama. We punted with 8 minutes to go and down 3 against Arkansas. And then Les comes out meek as a field mouse at the press conference
I am a huge Les Miles fan and I still appreciate everything he has done for the school, but there is something off about him. His biggest strength outside recruiting was motivating the team to play, and he hasn't don't that well the last 2 years.
Coming out of the gate we were a year in year out winner. We all think we can be that team
Now we have to wait on 4-5 year cycles for our team to be good?
He can't recruit QBs consistently enough to have someone older than a sophomore ready to take over when a 5th year senior leaves.
And lately when haven't been fighting to the end. We get behind and we don't take the risks you need to make a big comeback. No insides give vs Bama. We punted with 8 minutes to go and down 3 against Arkansas. And then Les comes out meek as a field mouse at the press conference
I am a huge Les Miles fan and I still appreciate everything he has done for the school, but there is something off about him. His biggest strength outside recruiting was motivating the team to play, and he hasn't don't that well the last 2 years.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:24 pm to Vindibudd
9-8 against the West in the last three years.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:25 pm to Vindibudd
ALL THE SEC FANS, ALL THE COACHES, AND ALL THE MEDIA JUST DON'T GET IT!!!!!
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:27 pm to Vindibudd
I don't want to fire him.
But obviously a whole bunch of folks, I'm not talking about morons on a msg board, are pushing for the move to be made
But obviously a whole bunch of folks, I'm not talking about morons on a msg board, are pushing for the move to be made
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:29 pm to Vindibudd
8-0
6-2
5-3
4-4
4-4*
*Assuming blowout loss this Saturday.
6-2
5-3
4-4
4-4*
*Assuming blowout loss this Saturday.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:30 pm to Vindibudd
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Full disclosure, I'm a Gator fan.
why do you have to add full disclosure to admit you are a gator fan?
miles has had 4 bad years in a row and has showed no improvement (actually has digressed) in that time frame. many schools fire their coach for that. what is causing the conflict, which you probably don't realize it exists (there are those that want to keep him and the factions are close in numbers) is that he has represented LSU with class, he is a great mentor for the players and he's a very likeable guy,not to mention the 2 SEC and 1 NC victories.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 3:38 pm to Vindibudd
13 and 10 in conference the last four seasons in conference including barely 500 in the SEC West.
Poor hires for coordinators multiple times. Big contact that has no return. Can't develop a QB. Stuck in the 80's for philosophy.
Poor hires for coordinators multiple times. Big contact that has no return. Can't develop a QB. Stuck in the 80's for philosophy.
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