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Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:13 pm to CaroTiger
Predictably on both sides of the ball and a refusal to make adjustments. We are not creative enough on offense to stay on the field and the D got tired. In 2011, we played the same way but we were lucky to have one of the best college defenses maybe ever and Bama missed field goals. I believe the talent is there but when the same offensive problems continue to happen over and over its a sign that change may need to take place. like wtf takes us so long to get an offensive play called???? I understand you are on the road in a noisy environment but you have to be prepared for that. Once or twice maybe but it constantly took us to the end of the play clock to get something called. IMO this is just sad
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:27 pm to Revelator
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ut Chubs had 180 plus on this same line and Georgia is bad!
Chub busted a 83 yard run in the 4th of a 28-3 ball game that was over because Ragland didn't cover his gap. Bama had dominated their line as well. It just appears worse because I honest to God had LSU to win by three. I thought you OL would do just enough to make his runs effective and keep drives alive. I didn't think Fournette would be the deciding factor because he's the one guy you don't let beat you. I figured Harris like Jennings last year would have the game of his life and beat Bama.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:39 pm to OilMan25
Like wtf takes us so long to get a play called
This has ALWAYS been my biggest annoyance. We take longer than anyone to call plays. Been that way since Miles started. Especially in the past 5-6 years. Do they over analyze the defense? Call your play and hike the ball.
This has ALWAYS been my biggest annoyance. We take longer than anyone to call plays. Been that way since Miles started. Especially in the past 5-6 years. Do they over analyze the defense? Call your play and hike the ball.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:03 pm to PortCityTiger82
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We either run up the middle or throw deep on routes that take far too long to develop. Nothing in between because our scary arse coach is too scared of interceptions to chance it
It's awe inspiring how people will say shite that is manifestly untrue.
We threw numerous short and intermadiate passes. Several resulted in nice gains - the one to Desean Smith and the out to Dupree, for example. Two short passes to the running back were incomplete, and a short pass to the TE was intercepted.
Our "scary arse" coach did exactly what you said he didn't do - and it didn't work.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:18 pm to Penrod
As always with bama, you have to spread their D. We didn't, so they could create an absolute wall opposite our Oline. Far less talented teams have performed better against them, by spreading their offense against bama's defense. Running sets with only 1 WR is never going to work for us against bama.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:15 pm to Grim
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What do you think was the cause
It really should be "were the causes" as opposed to "was the cause". That's not just semantics. There are a lot of factors involved.
On the offensive line, there are some talented guys there who have flashed the ability to be top-notch players during their careers, but I don't think any of them have been consistent with high-level play. I think William Clapp has been the most consistent player this year, and I think he had the best game vs. Alabama. Not that he was dominant, but he held his own for the most part, and I think he was better than the other linemen overall.
With the way that threads go (devolve) on this board, I really don't want to turn this into an issue about the head coach, but in my opinion, and I think any metric would bear this out, offensive linemen have not developed well during Miles' tenure. I could come up with a few different rearrangements for the offensive linemen, because I think some guys are playing out of position, but I'll hold off on doing that.
Dillon Gordon was out, and that was a big (but often overlooked) factor.
On the defensive line, you've got a 230-pound frosh DE. That's a physical mismatch vs. Alabama, especially in the running game (Tim Williams is a 230-pound pass rush specialist for Alabama). I think Bower has shown that he can be stronger at DE against the run, so there is a rotational opportunity. Then, there are some other bigger DEs on the roster also. Lewis Neal held up a little better on the other side, but he was pretty much neutralized for the most part in the running game. He's a good player, and he does some things really well, but that was just a tough game for him. I think both DEs are good pass rushers (Neal really has some unique abilities there -- if he keeps working on his speed, I could see him being effective as a 3-4 rush LB in the future.) and have bright futures.
The DTs were sort of hit-and-miss. LaCouture may have been hurt (?) -- he had some trouble. He did make a few plays, though, and the other DTs played well at times, but they were also neutralized a lot. There were some plays where Frank Herron stood out to me as doing a good job. Nothing especially spectacular, but I just thought that in a backup role he played with good strength at times, and stood his ground well in the first half.
Alabama was just bigger, stronger, and more developed, especially on the D front (I'm including the LBs because they've got some Creatures in that linebacking corps).
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 12:00 am to Grim
It was a combination of coaching and talented players having their mojo stolen.
As soon as you see your line being abused like it was, spread the fricking field and take advantage of the slower, bigger players on the field.
Key made some plays, but it was just expecting way too much of him to hold up against the run all game.
As soon as you see your line being abused like it was, spread the fricking field and take advantage of the slower, bigger players on the field.
Key made some plays, but it was just expecting way too much of him to hold up against the run all game.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 12:01 am
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:09 am to DEG
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Jesus Christ you millennial's and your misguided sense of toughness and entitlement. What a gigantic pussy.
So now im going from being "fussy" to a misguided sense of toughness?
Make up your mind, sugar.
Damn you're dumb!
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:32 am to Grim
Read the section in today's New Orleans Advocate or the link from Dandydon.com
Bama has a 4.2* offensive line rating and a 17 yr. combined experience
compared to LSU's 3.1* rating and 15 yr. combined experience. Plus
Bama has a 4.2* offensive line rating and a 17 yr. combined experience
compared to LSU's 3.1* rating and 15 yr. combined experience. Plus
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All seven of Bama’s starting defenders in that group were ranked in the top 10 at their position out of high school. Four of the seven were in the top 5.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:57 am to ScootiniTiger
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Bama has a 4.2* offensive line rating and a 17 yr. combined experience
compared to LSU's 3.1* rating and 15 yr. combined experience.
That may be true, but how does that explain why other less talented teams than LSU have success against Bama? Bama doesn't go undefeated every year and is obviously beatable. LSU doesn't attack Bama's weaknesses - LSU goes right at their strengths with predictable results.
Edited for spelling error
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 9:03 am
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:01 am to Grim
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Both our D and O lines are as talented or better than any of the teams that have had more success against bama this year, but they got ABUSED last night.
No. No they aren't.
Mingo Montgomery Brockers Logan are vastly more talented than this d line
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:01 am to S
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the O line wasn't helped by the lack of heterogeneity (rant word of the day) to our approach to establishing the run.
I agree.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:04 am to TigerRagAndrew
Brandon Harris can't execute the game plan all these armchair coaches want to run. It won't get him prepared for the NFL either
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:06 am to Grim
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What do you think was the cause for the arse whooping in the trenches?
Opinion...
1. Alabama is better - main reason
2. Noise may have been a factor, maybe
3. On the road
4. They weren't prepared as well
5. Alabama wanted it more, they're back were against the wall
6. Saban really has it in for LSU (seems that way). They play LSU like no other team
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:08 am to Grim
Bama was bigger, stronger, faster, coached better, more talented and wanted it much more plus they were motivated for the first time all season... Other than that... We were about even with them.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:10 am to Grim
Their Dline is better than our Dline and deeper, plus we did not have our 310 pound tight end or our starting fullback. Saban also bet on stopping LF and not BH. He won the bet
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:12 am to cyogi
1&6 true. It is time for Les to step up his coaching skills. Sat. the Tigers acted like we were playing ULM! 
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:44 am to Grim
Predictable play calling is the root cause.
At a very basic level, if you can't block 'em, screen 'em. How many screens did we call ?
How many swing passes ? edge plays ?
At a very basic level, if you can't block 'em, screen 'em. How many screens did we call ?
How many swing passes ? edge plays ?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:04 am to ccomeaux
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How many screens did we call ?
How many swing passes ? edge plays ?
I think Alabama wins in the trenches regardless of what plays are called, but I do agree that these plays should have been utilized more often, along with the play that just missed that probably reminded a lot of people of the 2003 loss to Florida.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 10:09 am
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