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re: Hiring a coach with a losing record
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:45 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:45 am to Fun Bunch
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Agreed, but a lot of that seems to be stemming from the terrible Guard play. Guards are just having their way with Ish, Nate, and Gordon.
It doesn't help going up against 2 of the best scoring PGs in the league to start. Ish has jumped some passes, but has been abused overall. Don't get me started on Nate. Gordon has been okay.
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:45 am to Fun Bunch
I went ahead and watched some of the highlights from the 2nd half. Hard to tell a lot from highlights, but the effort seemed to be a lot higher, especially from AD.
That's what I want to see. If we just don't have the bodies, I can live with that. It just pains me to see no effort at all.
That's what I want to see. If we just don't have the bodies, I can live with that. It just pains me to see no effort at all.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:46 am to Fun Bunch
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I went ahead and watched some of the highlights from the 2nd half. Hard to tell a lot from highlights, but the effort seemed to be a lot higher, especially from AD.
That's what I want to see. If we just don't have the bodies, I can live with that. It just pains me to see no effort at all.
Hopefully one of the coaches gave AD the business at the half. He needed a frank talking to.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:48 am to Galactic Inquisitor
His body language was terrible. The first game, and the first half of the 2nd game, he was just kind of shuffling up and down the court. Looked lost. Didn't seem to care.
I think he got talked to and he will get his shite together.
I think he got talked to and he will get his shite together.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:49 am to Fun Bunch
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His body language was terrible. The first game, and the first half of the 2nd game, he was just kind of shuffling up and down the court. Looked lost. Didn't seem to care.
I think he got talked to and he will get his shite together.
When he checked back in during the first half last night, he just looked uninterested, which had me throwing my hands up.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:54 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Now we are going to have people making fun of us saying we are body language experts. 
But seriously, even my wife, who was half paying attention and could not give a single frick about basketball unless she is courtside, said "What is wrong with him? Did someone die?"
He'll get it together. He's tGOAT.
But seriously, even my wife, who was half paying attention and could not give a single frick about basketball unless she is courtside, said "What is wrong with him? Did someone die?"
He'll get it together. He's tGOAT.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 12:08 pm to Fun Bunch
No, they've looked terrible. Ryno and Ish are the only ones playing with confidence. The team is missing it's swag leader, someone to tell AD
Posted on 10/29/15 at 12:16 pm to TigerinATL
Every time I read that I do a fist pump.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 12:41 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
When has David ever played with emotion? Dude gets fired up like 5 times a year
Whatever fits your bitchy narrative, mate
Whatever fits your bitchy narrative, mate
Posted on 10/29/15 at 12:56 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Both of them had short runs on one gig before. Gentry has had several NBA HC jobs.
And Gentry didn't have a losing record in Phoenix...
Same thing in Detroit
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:10 pm to Fun Bunch
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I went ahead and watched some of the highlights from the 2nd half. Hard to tell a lot from highlights, but the effort seemed to be a lot higher, especially from AD.
It was, all around. Davis was markedly more energetic. Pels actually outscored the Blazers in the last 3 quarters. I know that doesn't mean a whole lot, but they eventually got their stuff together. 2nd half was more of what I expected the game to be. Offense will come around when we start getting guys back. Both GS and POR completely ignored Perk, Ish, Robinson, and Gee. None of those guys will be getting minutes by Christmas, and most will be out of the rotation in a week or so.
The defense is more concerning. Davis has been bad on that end. He is getting attacked by the ball-handler on PnRs and is giving up layups every time, outside of the one nasty block on Lillard last night. Gordon is still dying on screens and can't stay in front of his man. Ish gives effort but is ineffective, Nate even more so. Asik will help some. Dante staying out of foul trouble will help. He's been decent on the boards as well. Pondexter will help there as well.
It will get better when some of those guys get back. For all the talk of simplifying the system, it is still a completely new system. The missed rotations and complete breakdowns COULD be evidence of that. I'm willing to give them a couple weeks before we call it a total failure. If we are still seeing these lapses late into December, that's another story, and the problem would appear to be systemic.
No one likes watching the team get blown out. It sucks. Despite that, some perspective is helpful. Every game counts, but this is a LONG season. These guys, many of whom missed some or all of training camp, are learning a new system on both ends of the floor. It's a completely new coaching staff, and they will also need some time to adjust and acclimate to the roster. Let's chill out for little while and enjoy the positives and think rationally about the negatives. Give this thing some time to come together (and get semi-healthy).Still have 80 games to go and I'm still expecting a damn fun ride.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:33 pm to GynoSandberg
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When has David ever played with emotion? Dude gets fired up like 5 times a year
Whatever fits your bitchy narrative, mate
That's the vaGyno I remember.Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:38 pm to TigerBait1127
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And Gentry didn't have a losing record in Phoenix...
He did have one good full year in Phoenix.
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Same thing in Detroit
He was one game over .500 in Detroit and got fired in the middle of year 3 with a 28-30 record.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:55 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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was one game over .500 in Detroit and got fired in the middle of year 3 with a 28-30 record
It was really his 2nd season since he was interim in year 1
They went from 37-45 to 29-21 under him the next season
So 1.5 Years with them as his team
Anyway, it really has nothing to do with the overall point of the thread title. Coach's in the nba are as good as their talent.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:00 pm to LSUhornet17
Dante had like a +22 last night. It was just his foul trouble that hurt.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:12 pm to TigerBait1127
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Coach's in the nba are as good as their talent.
Then why did we change coaches? Why ever change coaches? Why do some coaches always seem to win?
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:17 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
No link yet, but nate robinson just got waived.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:26 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Then why did we change coaches? Why ever change coaches? Why do some coaches always seem to win?
Because good coach's can maximize the talent.... You heard it last year when we would ignore Anthony Davis instead of feeding him with a lead.
We were losing to some of the worst teams in the nba last year while beating some of the best. It wasn't a talent issue in those games
Right now, we have a talent issue with 3 starters out, another limited, and the backup PG to the limited player is also out
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:17 pm to TigerBait1127
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Because good coach's can maximize the talent....
It's almost like you're arguing with yourself at this point.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:25 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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It's almost like you're arguing with yourself at this point
Not at all.
I'll simplify it further for you: NBA coaches are limited by their talent. The ceiling is lower based on talent. A great coach can't turn a team lacking talent into a contender.
Hence, an nba coach is only as good as his talent allows.
Can't make it any easier to understand than that.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 3:29 pm
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