The future of compensation for servers in America?

I'm in favor. Essentially mandatory tipping? How could I say no to that?

I'm would be okay if not tipping was the norm.

Right but they're going to pay them more than a "living wage" unless they want mcdonalds employees working. Servers are not going to go from 20+ an hour to 10.

Prices will rise to offset that.

Viola.. mandatory tipping.

I've always said this is what they should do.. pay servers 20% of their total sales and raise prices by 20%.

If you work somewhere that knows how to manage, this isn't happening. If you only made $25, you got sent home early. Like you only worked 1-2 hours.

On slow nights, employees are cut immediately and those who stay still make their 20% average.

At least in the couple places I worked..
I realize when you get to places like little Viet places and hole in the wall joints, this may be more of an issue.

BUT honestly if there are people regularly going home with 25 bucks, they're probably already being compensated by the business or they'd leave.

They'll give you some side work if they think a "pop" will hit within the next half hour.. but nah. It's better on everyone if people are cut when it's slow.

And being expectedly cut isn't exactly terrible either. Extra time to drink! Lol

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Extra time to drink! Lol

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The glass is always half full!!!

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Personally, I don't like the idea of pay 30%+ more for a meal in which the server isn't accountable to anyone,

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They are accountable to the company or place where they work. That is how it is with every other profession. Show up on time, do your job and go a little above what is asked. Works every place else in the world.

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I do think he's delusional in his quest for this utopia he's built up in his mind where he magically transforms the food service industry for the betterment of all parties. Economics and life usually don't work like that, somebody will lose.

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Well put. I agree that business should be able to make these choices at their own risk. Take a peek at Walmart stock today. Down 10% largely due to their self imposed "minimum wage" increase.

Now, management and shareholders can decide if it was a good idea and reverse course if need be.

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Okay. Please expound at length about your wonderful recent customer service experiences at Best Buy, the Verizon retail store,

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Walked in Best Buy a few weeks ago. Asked about a certain type of cable, specifically its location. They walked me over to the aisle. I grabbed it, checked out, was out in less than 10 mins.

Walked in Verizon Saturday. I was greeted at the door. The customer service rep took the number for my account, punched a few times on his iPad, resolved my issue, and I was out in 15 headache-free minutes.

It's probably the smug sense of superiority you give off that inspires such shitty customer service

Also, ideologue, sure, but he also makes a valid point in that certain members of John Q public are just shitty tippers and make for shitty "bosses."

From the consumer side, I can think of like 1 time I've felt the need to stiff someone. And I was 19.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but there just isn't a time in my memory that someone has deserved less than the normal 20%. Some servers are amazing (and receive way more), some do the minimum to get the job done. But as long as the job is done (and sincere apologies are given when it isn't done), 20% happens. Again, maybe I'm lucky. I'm so overly nice to service people that they probably know right off the bat I'm not looking to judge their service too harshly. People respond to niceness with niceness, and I am quite certain my being overly nice to the point of it almost looking creepy is why I receive good service every time.

People will still complain to management when someone does a poor job. They do it in every customer service profession.



That said, the average for a normal server in my personal experience is 20%.. so this move isn't really necessary even though I've been stiffed and undertipped plenty. Amazing tippers make up for the shite tippers. It all evens out.