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re: Need a ruling over this bet.

Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Sal Minio
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:12 pm to
B.L.M.

B lunches matter.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41587 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

The exact expectation was that free lunch would be provided by some means


we get free lunch all the time, by this reasoning he could have grabbed a box lunch from a meeting handed it to me and called it his debt

we've bet a bunch and the satisfaction of the bet is when he signs the credit card receipt shelling out money for the lunch not the shitty quesadilla i got with a chunk of plastic in it
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25081 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Lunch was the bet and he received a lunch. Where do you draw the line on Person B spending anything? His very time that he took Person A to lunch was worth money. The gas to drive there, the tip...all of these things represent money that he spent to pay the debt. And all of it ended up with Person A getting their lunch.

Debt is cleared.


I disagree. If the bet was that the loser had to buy the winner lunch, I think the most objective reading of that requirement is that he has to buy the winner a meal. I said the tip could complicate things. Would be interesting to know if B tipped here.


quote:

His very time that he took Person A to lunch was worth money.


GTFO with this weak shite. Your time may have value to you, but it doesn't to me. Your time doesn't pay the debt you owe me.

quote:

The gas to drive there


Also weak. We don't even know who drove. Sorry you spent a few cents in gas money, but you still have to buy me lunch like the bet stated.

The tip is more directly related to the purchase of the meal so I think that could complicate things. Compromise - you still owe me lunch but I'll pay the tip.







Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:15 pm to


The semantics of "buying" isn't in play. The bet is for A to "receive" food, for free, by any means.

Let's say B has a Chili's gift card given to him by a cheap relative for his birthday. B whips it out and pays. Should A consider B as not providing food because B did not technically "buy" said food using his currency?

Debt paid. /
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7617 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

"Buy" probably wasn't the exact expectation. The exact expectation was that free lunch would be provided by some means. Free lunch was provided. The person who was owed received compensation. A bet is about compensation that the winner receives. Not the means by which the loser provides compensation.
Exactly.

What if this was a money bet? And Person B happens to be a good friend of mine and he doesn't have the cash to pay the bet. I give him the money and he pays Person A. Does Person A still need to be paid simply because Person B didn't have any hardship out of the deal?

No, Person A would go about his merry way. The same thing should be the result of this lunch bet.

Had there been something wrong with the restaurant/food to the point of no lunch was eaten, then you'd have a point. But he got his lunch.
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36339 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:15 pm to
I vote for another free meal, especially if it's Adam paying for it.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84488 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

we get free lunch all the time, by this reasoning he could have grabbed a box lunch from a meeting handed it to me and called it his debt

we've bet a bunch and the satisfaction of the bet is when he signs the credit card receipt shelling out money for the lunch not the shitty quesadilla i got with a chunk of plastic in it




You should feel embarrassed for this, but I'm guessing you don't.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23162 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

we get free lunch all the time, by this reasoning he could have grabbed a box lunch from a meeting handed it to me and called it his debt we've bet a bunch and the satisfaction of the bet is when he signs the credit card receipt shelling out money for the lunch not the shitty quesadilla i got with a chunk of plastic in it


I would probably let this go. Technically, yes he may still owe you lunch. However, if you like this guy you can rib him about this story for decades
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:19 pm to
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The semantics of "buying" isn't in play. The bet is for A to "receive" food, for free, by any means.


How are you going to tell the OP what the criterion are for his own bet?
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

we've bet a bunch and the satisfaction of the bet is when he signs the credit card receipt shelling out money for the lunch not the shitty quesadilla i got with a chunk of plastic in it


If the actual compensation to you doesn't matter then it doesn't matter who he buys lunch for. It is just the mere act of a lunch. To settle this debt if that's the expectation he can just buy himself lunch one day and credit it to his debt to you.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25081 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

The semantics of "buying" isn't in play. The bet is for A to "receive" food, for free, by any means.


Words matter. The OP said the bet was the loser has to buy the winner lunch. It's not semantics, it is the essence of the bet. The bet was not that the winner had to "receive free food."
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41587 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:20 pm to
he says he tipped on it but I also got water so that was a no cost as well
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26126 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:21 pm to
If Person B didn't compensate for the lunch then the bet has not been fulfilled. Person A needs the compensation from Person B, not a waitress who couldnt take an order.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:21 pm to

Same logic I guarantee B has already explained to A to frick off with.

A, tell B to log in and join this fray. We need the full story
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83142 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:22 pm to
Bet is satisfied IMO
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26126 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Person A wins a bet which states person B has to buy A lunch.


quote:

The semantics of "buying" isn't in play. The bet is for A to "receive" food, for free, by any means.


I think it is.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25081 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:23 pm to
double post
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25081 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

he says he tipped on it


Ruling: he still owes you lunch that he buys but you have to tip. Easy answer.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41587 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:24 pm to
how about this situation if we go to eat with him having the intent of paying for my lunch but instead someone else at the table picks up the check, he would still owe me lunch as well. right?
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41587 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Ruling: he still owes you lunch that he buys but you have to tip. Easy answer.


i tried this but hes still saying debt paid
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