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re: Best non-gun weapon for home defense?
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:41 pm to Julienas
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:41 pm to Julienas
Thanks for the serious replies.
To everyone else, if you're a responsible gun owner then you should recognize that a gun isn't the best fit for everyone in every situation. I myself have no problem with guns - I grew up with them and used to shoot. However, you don't know everyone's situation - including but not limited to certain concerns with children and/or mental health issues with people in the household - so please take a step back.
I live in a safe area, have a dog and an alarm, so the chances of a deadly home invasion are extremely small (but not non-existent, hence this thread). I'm only interested in something that could save our arse in the event that this happens.
I've made the judgment that bringing a gun into our house will increase - not decrease - the chances of harm falling upon someone. This is limited to my own personal situation and my own evaluation of it - as is my right. I'm not opining on anyone else's situation, yours is probably different from mine.
So thanks again to everyone else
. I may end up just relying on my treated Louiville Slugger to put a mirrored imprint of Bo Jackson's (GOAT 
) signature on someone's forehead if they come in. Maybe get that pepper shooter too for good measure.
To everyone else, if you're a responsible gun owner then you should recognize that a gun isn't the best fit for everyone in every situation. I myself have no problem with guns - I grew up with them and used to shoot. However, you don't know everyone's situation - including but not limited to certain concerns with children and/or mental health issues with people in the household - so please take a step back.
I live in a safe area, have a dog and an alarm, so the chances of a deadly home invasion are extremely small (but not non-existent, hence this thread). I'm only interested in something that could save our arse in the event that this happens.
I've made the judgment that bringing a gun into our house will increase - not decrease - the chances of harm falling upon someone. This is limited to my own personal situation and my own evaluation of it - as is my right. I'm not opining on anyone else's situation, yours is probably different from mine.
So thanks again to everyone else
. I may end up just relying on my treated Louiville Slugger to put a mirrored imprint of Bo Jackson's (GOAT ) signature on someone's forehead if they come in. Maybe get that pepper shooter too for good measure. This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 2:45 pm
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:43 pm to Julienas
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To everyone else, if you're a responsible gun owner then you should recognize that a gun isn't the best fit for everyone in every situation. I myself have no problem with guns - I grew up with them and used to shoot. However, you don't know everyone's situation - including but not limited to certain concerns with children and/or mental health issues with people in the household - so please take a step back.
You're right. It's your right to protect how you want to. But we are gun aficionados so the topic always migrates that direction.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:44 pm to Julienas
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:47 pm to Julienas
Escrima or a framing hammer. I also have a 18" rolling head pry bar that I keep handy......as a backup to my guns, but you know your situation.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:55 pm to Julienas
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including but not limited to certain concerns with children and/or mental health issues with people in the household
Probably the right call in your case. We don't need another Sandy Hook.
I would say a football bat is your best choice.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:56 pm to Julienas
Bear Spray,
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:01 pm to Julienas
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I've made the judgment that bringing a gun into our house will increase - not decrease - the chances of harm falling upon someone. This is limited to my own personal situation and my own evaluation of it - as is my right. I'm make no value judgments about anyone else's.
Perfectly valid weighing of risks based on your situation.
Living in a safe neighborhood with good neighbors and practicing some common sense goes a long way: lighting around house, good exterior doors which you keep locked and not opening for strangers, having an alarm and a dog. The odds of a stranger forcibly entering your home while you are there, disregarding a home alarm, and causing serious injury to you or your family is miniscule.
If someone breaks in while you are home and has a gun, a baseball bat or other weapon would probably end up causing more harm to you and your family than good. I think an alarm and dog combined would suffice. If you still felt uncomfortable you could add an indoor flood light set to a motion detector that you can turn on at night.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:47 pm to Julienas
I have also heard recently that wasp spray is effective, can spray 20 feet and will blind someone. better range than pepper spray.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:58 pm to Julienas
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However, you don't know everyone's situation - including but not limited to certain concerns with children and/or mental health issues with people in the household - so please take a step back.
I can respect that.
What others have said - good pepper spray (that Kimber looks nice, I may buy one or two, only $40), an alarm with some serious high pitched loud sirens and a dog are probably best. For your hands (I'm assuming you are an adult sized male), a bat with nails is a good weapon.
Here's the thing, whether you have a gun or not, you need to be prepared to kill any intruder that enters your home. No internet tough guy bullshite. You have a family to protect. Run through the scenarios, know what you can and cannot and will and will not do. Are you capable - physically and mentally - of hitting an intruder in the face with a bat full of nails, stabbing him, and generally just going braveheart on him? You need to be, otherwise, you end up running the risk of your weapon being taken and getting beaten or killed yourself.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:09 pm to Julienas
Saw a post on FB about keeping a can of wasp spray handy for defense. Blinds the intruder from 10-15' away, assuming you can hit him in the face with it.
ETA: didn't read the thread all the way through.
ETA: didn't read the thread all the way through.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:20 pm to Julienas
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However, you don't know everyone's situation - including but not limited to certain concerns with... mental health issues with people in the household - so please take a step back.
I had to live in a large city for a period of time and this was a concern of mine because of with whom I was living. I had a large Rottweiler/Shepard mix as a first line of defense, then pepper spray, and then a baseball bat. I also kept a machete and knives stashed where I could get to them quickly, but without anyone else's knowledge. When I did have a gun in the house, it was without the other person's knowledge, and I usually stored the mag and ammo out of the house.
If you can't have a gun, your lines of defense are (and should be even with a gun): exterior lights, dog(s), and an alarm system. However, much overlooked is situational awareness. A lot of crime is, for lack of a better term, "invited." Don't invite it: always lock every door, never leave anything in plain sight, close your blinds, park underneath parking lot/street lamps, grow eyes in the back of your head, etc. After a while, this becomes second nature.
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