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inshore fishing question
Posted on 9/14/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 12:47 pm
So I've taken up kayak fishing as new hobby since the wife and I bought a couple yaks earlier this year. I had never really fished before other than kid stuff but after a couple months of trial and error I'm now consistently bringing home a few redfish and the occasional black drum every trip. Mostly hitting delacroix, sometimes PAC.
I feel like i should be doing better based on what others claim to be catching. Everything I catch has been under a popping cork with live or dead shrimp. I typically throw the cork to one side of the boat and fish the other side with soft plastics on jigheads or weedless spoons. No luck at all with these lures regardless of color. Everything I'm reading says spoons across the grass beds should work but I get no strikes at all.
Just curious if anyone has any general advice.
I feel like i should be doing better based on what others claim to be catching. Everything I catch has been under a popping cork with live or dead shrimp. I typically throw the cork to one side of the boat and fish the other side with soft plastics on jigheads or weedless spoons. No luck at all with these lures regardless of color. Everything I'm reading says spoons across the grass beds should work but I get no strikes at all.
Just curious if anyone has any general advice.
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Posted on 9/14/15 at 12:51 pm to MarshTiger
buy inline spinners and get soft plastics with chartreuse tails. Reel slowly.
Also I understand the frustration with spoons. I have never caught anything other than 1 bass with one. I have the least amount of confidence in a spoon of anything I thrown in the marsh, so it sucks to see everyone talk about how it is their go-to bait and that they always catch something with them. You are not alone
Also I understand the frustration with spoons. I have never caught anything other than 1 bass with one. I have the least amount of confidence in a spoon of anything I thrown in the marsh, so it sucks to see everyone talk about how it is their go-to bait and that they always catch something with them. You are not alone
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 12:58 pm to MarshTiger
I fished a gold spoon almost exclusively until I found inline spinners. Inline spinner with black/chart H&H cocahoe is where it's at.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:02 pm to Jakesonaplane
i fish spoons regularly and so does my FIL when we go to Leeville. He doesn't touch spinners. I use spinners but not spoons if i go somewhere else.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:05 pm to MarshTiger
Just find a bait that you have confidence with and go with that. For me that bait is a gold spoon. I will throw a gold spoon all day, unless it is cloudy. In overcast conditions I'm throwing a leadbelly swimbait hook with a matrix shad/slayer inc tail.
Can you stand on your kayak?
Can you stand on your kayak?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:09 pm to MarshTiger
Go with other yakkers. Obviously start with BCKFC.
4" Gulp Swimming Mullet in chartreuse will catch every species of inshore fish. Put it on jig head and go. From there, change/add by using spinner, inline spinner, etc. Notice how just about every popular color combo inshore has chartreuse tail.
4" Gulp Swimming Mullet in chartreuse will catch every species of inshore fish. Put it on jig head and go. From there, change/add by using spinner, inline spinner, etc. Notice how just about every popular color combo inshore has chartreuse tail.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:11 pm to MarshTiger
I've actually gotten where I fish artifical almost exclusively in the yak, like all things, practice and patience to learn are needed. Try diversifying your tackle selection. If I'm targetting reds I usually like to start off tossing topwaters on flats and near grasslines, close to the bank, near points, etc. If that's not doing much then I'll switch to either an inline spinner or a jighead and plastic(Gulp has been my go-to lately). Again working shorelines, flats, and points with varying retrieve speeds/technique. It takes work and time to get good so don't get too discouraged.
I've also never caught a thing on a spoon, I have several in the box but it's the bait I'm least confident in. I need to take a trip with only spoons to get some confidence in them.
I've also never caught a thing on a spoon, I have several in the box but it's the bait I'm least confident in. I need to take a trip with only spoons to get some confidence in them.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:18 pm to AutoYes_Clown
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Notice how just about every popular color combo inshore has chartreuse tail.
Fact. I only throw LSU colors if I'm using a swimbait,
Tigerbait w/ Chartreuse Slayerinc S.S.T.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:19 pm to YOURADHERE
I never used them until fishing with my FIL and hes been having his camp in leeville for longer than ive been alive so ill listen when im there. He will also put a live minnow or dead shrimp on the spoon 
ive caught fish doing that so its worth a try
ive caught fish doing that so its worth a try Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:02 pm to MarshTiger
I've never been a huge fan of spoons either, that being said, maybe you're focusing too much on the lure and not looking for places that look fishy. My advice would be to worry more about conditions (water clarity, tidal movement, and bait). If you can find the right spot, you ought to be able to throw out just about anything to make a redfish eat.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:08 pm to MarshTiger
Also, it sounds like you just kind of park in one spot and sit there and fish.. You should be covering a shite ton of water while you're fishing.. At least I do
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:17 pm to MarshTiger
That bottom lure on that picture is my money lure. I think it's called "morning glory". I have success with spinners but I usually tip mine with some market bait. I've had a lot of succes using the Vudoo shrimp flo with chartreuse tail. They've been hammering that lately.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 4:01 pm to MarshTiger
First let me say that I admire the tenacity of those you who fish from Kayaks. I fortunately have a bay boat and have watched many Kayakers fish near my boat. The two things that I have noticed that put some Yak fishermen at a disadvantage is that you are sitting down which makes for a different presentation of the lure unless you're fishing under a cork. This would definitely be the case with fishing some spoons. The other thing that I have noticed is that many Yak fishermen use really heavy tackle. I'm talking offshore spinning reels with steel leaders etc. I don't mean to offend anyone, but take it for what it is worth.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 4:32 pm to jobbieman
I respect your opinion, but I've slayed fish sitting down in my kayak and watched the bay boat 50 yards away sit for 2 hours with a puzzled look at why they weren't catching anything.
I was fishing a Zoom super fluke weightless, about 3 inches below the surface on this particular occasion. A fish every cast. Specks and Reds eat them up
As far as heavy tackle and steel leaders, that just sounds like noobs..not specific to kayakers
As far as OP:
Zoom Super Fluke fished weightless. (DOA makes a nice one too that's more durable)
Gulp shrimp fished on the the bottom on a 3/8 jig head.
These are my go to artificials, but I just bought a fly setup so my next few trips to the flats will be with that
I was fishing a Zoom super fluke weightless, about 3 inches below the surface on this particular occasion. A fish every cast. Specks and Reds eat them up
As far as heavy tackle and steel leaders, that just sounds like noobs..not specific to kayakers
As far as OP:
Zoom Super Fluke fished weightless. (DOA makes a nice one too that's more durable)
Gulp shrimp fished on the the bottom on a 3/8 jig head.
These are my go to artificials, but I just bought a fly setup so my next few trips to the flats will be with that
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:20 pm to MarshTiger
My favorite spoons are still the AquaDream spoons despite some people being unhappy with them. My favorite colors are the gold, copper, or black. I've caught most of my red fish in Delacroix on spoons.
I agree with AutoYes_Clown on the Gulp Chartreus 4" mullets, I love those things and primarily tight line them on a 1/8 oz jig head and have caught just about every inshore species on them. A few buddies were fishing them under a cork a few weekends ago and producing fish as well.
I agree with AutoYes_Clown on the Gulp Chartreus 4" mullets, I love those things and primarily tight line them on a 1/8 oz jig head and have caught just about every inshore species on them. A few buddies were fishing them under a cork a few weekends ago and producing fish as well.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:25 pm to jobbieman
Would you like to see some pictures to see that kayakers can indeed have proper lure presentation?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:53 pm to MarshTiger
most of the success I've had w/ a spoon was on a clear sunny day over grass. Also in clear brackish water, not super salty water. FWIW.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:03 pm to jobbieman
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jobbieman
I have to disagree on both. When I am in a bay boat, I like keeping my rod down for most lures including spoons. I feel like I can get through more weeds that way (tap tugging when it snags). I also don't know a single kayaker that uses heavy tackle. Most are using finesse bait casters or "trout" spinning tackle. In fact, I would say on average kayakers use lighter tackle than most because of sleigh ride fun and ability to get away with lighter tackle by not having to muscle a fish in. I use 2000 and 3000 series spinning tackle.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:07 pm to AutoYes_Clown
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I have to disagree on both. When I am in a bay boat, I like keeping my rod down for most lures including spoons. I feel like I can get through more weeds that way (tap tugging when it snags). I also don't know a single kayaker that uses heavy tackle. Most are using finesse bait casters or "trout" spinning tackle. In fact, I would say on average kayakers use lighter tackle than most because of sleigh ride fun and ability to get away with lighter tackle by not having to muscle a fish in. I use 2000 and 3000 series spinning tackle.
Yep agree x100. I use a M rod and Shimano Core which is one of the smallest reels on the market.
Also never seen another kayaker with heavy tackle. Only time I fish something "heavy" is if I'm throwing a topwater into some thick stuff. In that case I use a H Dobyn's.. But that's completely different than what jobbieman was describing.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 1:53 pm to Jakesonaplane
Thanks for the reply. Will definitely try one of these on the next outing.
How does that all tackle do in the weeds? I can see the hook is rigged "weedless" but the spinner and beads look like they would get caught in the grass pretty easily.
How does that all tackle do in the weeds? I can see the hook is rigged "weedless" but the spinner and beads look like they would get caught in the grass pretty easily.
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