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re: Why does it seem like Lawyers are more valued than Engineers or Scientists
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:21 pm to notiger1997
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:21 pm to notiger1997
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Do your best. Keep you head up and quit worrying about stupid shite.
I am not worried. I am happy with what I am pursuing now. I just wanted some people to give me insight on this since its apparently a common phenomena.
Unless their is an underline concept I am missing, engineers and quantitative scientist are hard workers.
This post was edited on 8/30/15 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:23 pm to volod
Probably because people interact with attorneys much more so than engineers or scientists. People need attorneys for criminal defense, wills and estates, trusts, contract disputes, divorce and custody issues, personal property disputes, land ownership disputes, employment disputes, intellectual property issues, bankruptcy issues, workers' compensation issues, tax issues, etc .............
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:25 pm to Forkbeard3777
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People need attorneys for criminal defense, wills and estates, trusts, contract disputes, divorce and custody issues, personal property disputes, land ownership disputes, employment disputes, intellectual property issues, bankruptcy issues, workers' compensation issues, tax issues, etc .............
Thank you, I knew law had alot of different specialties but I never really correlated the number of personal interactions lawyers have with the public.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:26 pm to volod
Engineers aren't as good at self-promotion.
Lawyers in certain specialities would starve to death if they were not good at self-promotion.
Lawyers in certain specialities would starve to death if they were not good at self-promotion.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:29 pm to volod
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No. You see insecurity has different stages. For simplicity, it goes from E to S class, with S being the highest grade. (E,D,C,B,A, and finally S). I fall in the E class. The S class people you are referring to are those who buy expensive luxuries in order to impress people to gain validation for their existence. ETA: This is an anime reference for those savvy enough to figure it out.
Smoke 'em if you got 'em...I make no apologies for my success
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Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:29 pm to volod
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Thank you, I knew law had alot of different specialties but I never really correlated the number of personal interactions lawyers have with the public.
I'm not an attorney, but (off the top of my head) our legal department deals with: mediation and arbitration, contract negotiations, employment issues (such as non-compete), workers' compensation, intellectual property, tax issues, products liability/tort law
This post was edited on 8/30/15 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:29 pm to volod
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Unless their is and underline concept I am missing.
Jesus dude
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:33 pm to volod
Lawyers are terrible until you need one and when you need one, you have nowhere else to go.
The criminal defense guys don't do anything. They just spend 15 minutes getting a plea deal from their buddies in the DA office and charge you thousands for that.
The divorce lawyers try to start fights and milk everyone dry.
The ambulance chasers are ambulance chasers.
It's all a game to bleed people in whatever situation dry.
They will have a girl in their office making $10/hr mail a letter and it will show up as $250 when billed.
The couple of times I've ever needed a lawyer, it's been the same.
Even when you have a good lawyer and they do a good job for you, you still end up raped.
The criminal defense guys don't do anything. They just spend 15 minutes getting a plea deal from their buddies in the DA office and charge you thousands for that.
The divorce lawyers try to start fights and milk everyone dry.
The ambulance chasers are ambulance chasers.
It's all a game to bleed people in whatever situation dry.
They will have a girl in their office making $10/hr mail a letter and it will show up as $250 when billed.
The couple of times I've ever needed a lawyer, it's been the same.
Even when you have a good lawyer and they do a good job for you, you still end up raped.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:46 pm to Scoop
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Lawyers are terrible until you need one and when you need one, you have nowhere else to go.
Seems like a profession where morals are on the back burner. But to be fair, other industries can be just as corrupt.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:46 pm to volod
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Being an engineer or applied scientist takes a lot of work and many people can not do it (especially the people who mock physics or math m
Someone's mad they are only an engineer...
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:50 pm to volod
Lawyers generally get paid more, therefore they are of higher value to society. That's the simple answer,
It's not discrimination just the free market at work.
It's not discrimination just the free market at work.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:50 pm to Restomod
I'm pretty sure the average salary of most engineering fields is higher than for attorneys, so no, the economic value for engineers is higher than for lawyers.
Most lawyers aren't paid that well, especially since the Recession. There's a huge glut in the legal labor market.
Most lawyers aren't paid that well, especially since the Recession. There's a huge glut in the legal labor market.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:52 pm to Scoop
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They will have a girl in their office making $10/hr mail a letter and it will show up as $250 when billed.
Bruh, minimum wage and $450, you are behind on the times.
Sometimes I will stuff the letter myself and charge you a couple grand.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:53 pm to volod
There's a difference between law school degree and a engineering degree.
You don't understand that?
You don't understand that?
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:54 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Every last lawyer on this planet is a son of a bitch.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:58 pm to Lou Pai
what was it Shakespeare said ... ?
Posted on 8/30/15 at 8:59 pm to OWLFAN86
"First we kill all the Engineers and Scientists"?
Posted on 8/30/15 at 9:00 pm to volod
GOOD lawyers from GOOD law schools are extremely valued. With the over abundance of unnecessary laws and today's sue happy environment lawyers who went to a law school worth a damn and are good at what they do are invaluable and will continue to be until we have meaningful tort reform (i.e. never)
Posted on 8/30/15 at 9:03 pm to Restomod
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Someone's mad they are only an engineer...
I dont get what your saying. I am in school for engineering.
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