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re: The universe is dying
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:25 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:25 pm to Darth_Vader
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And yet they can't tell us for sure if it's going to rain four days from now.
Holy shite, do you really think these guys work for the weather channel? These statements are like fingernails on a chain board, I'm gonna go punch a coworker. Thanks Darth, you ignorant piece of frick.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:27 pm to m2pro
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For the record, I always use that analogy whenever anyone talks about global this or that... or universe speak.
just
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:28 pm to ell_13
Look up at how big a chunk of physics is connected to thermodynamics. And how much of the rest uses that chunk as a premise somewhere.
There has always been the sidestep of the universe perhaps not being a closed system, but that is conjecture at best and even if true represents only a delaying action.
When it was made clear that the Big Crunch wasn't going to happen, there is only one possibility, it's only a question of how long before it happens.
There has always been the sidestep of the universe perhaps not being a closed system, but that is conjecture at best and even if true represents only a delaying action.
When it was made clear that the Big Crunch wasn't going to happen, there is only one possibility, it's only a question of how long before it happens.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:30 pm to LucasP
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LucasP
Is there something wrong with my logic? Unbelievable amounts of tax dollars go into research on a subject matter humans have no real damn clue about... and then use as a political platform to beat their drum about and try to make other people feel stupid or bad for their own lives.
Just saying... we can't accurately predict the freaking rain from one day to the next. How can we predict the weather and climate hundreds to millions of years from now with any degree of accuracy?
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:32 pm to LSU1NSEC
Isn't there something about the Higgs boson particle that is supposed to destabilize the universe within like 100 billion years (or some such nonsense)?
Seems like another cataclysmic event not unlike the big bang would just hit reset on all the shite that has happened the first time over.
This could all be completely off base since theoretical physics doesn't even make sense to theoretical physicists.
Seems like another cataclysmic event not unlike the big bang would just hit reset on all the shite that has happened the first time over.
This could all be completely off base since theoretical physics doesn't even make sense to theoretical physicists.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:33 pm to Volvagia
I understand the principle of entropy and thermodynamics and how they connect to chemistry and physics. But to say "literally all" of physics is bullshite if we're wrong about the universe ercks the frick out of me. We are talking about a theoretical proposition taking into account hundreds is assumptions. That doesn't and shouldn't negate what we DO know about how things work, especially as they relate to here on earth at both the molecular and larger levels.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:33 pm to m2pro
You're an idiot if you think this has anything to do with weather. The comparison is ignorant as shite
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:36 pm to ell_13
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You're an idiot if you think this has anything to do with weather. The comparison is ignorant as shite
Ah. I see. I forget that no arguments exist that have applicable principles to unconnected arguments.
not that i was trying to thread-jack the topic. i do like the topic. i think it's FUN to talk about this kind of stuff. i was just sharing a sentiment, momentarily, by another poster.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:38 pm to m2pro
I googled your last sentence and got this
But that's not my point. My point is you shouldn't dismiss scientific discovery because weathermen can't accurately predict the weather, that's fricking retarded. Scientists and engineers can accurately predict the behaviors of invisible waves and infinitesimally small particles that can provide you all the technology you see today. A century ago that would be fricking magic. I'd say science has a pretty good track record. But you know nothing about any of this and dismiss it out of hand because the weather guy is wrong. You're ignorant and you're comfortable in your ignorance making you the worst kind of human being. So again
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Climate models are mathematical representations of the interactions between the atmosphere, oceans, land surface, ice – and the sun. This is clearly a very complex task, so models are built to estimate trendsrather than events. For example, a climate model can tell you it will be cold in winter, but it can’t tell you what the temperature will be on a specific day – that’s weather forecasting. Climate trends are weather, averaged out over time - usually 30 years.Trends are important because they eliminate - or "smooth out" - single events that may be extreme, but quite rare.
But that's not my point. My point is you shouldn't dismiss scientific discovery because weathermen can't accurately predict the weather, that's fricking retarded. Scientists and engineers can accurately predict the behaviors of invisible waves and infinitesimally small particles that can provide you all the technology you see today. A century ago that would be fricking magic. I'd say science has a pretty good track record. But you know nothing about any of this and dismiss it out of hand because the weather guy is wrong. You're ignorant and you're comfortable in your ignorance making you the worst kind of human being. So again
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:38 pm to Volvagia
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The space between the atoms of your body is growing at the same rate as deep space. It just takes a very long distance for the effect to be profound.
I never really thought of that way. All matter will cease to be able to bind at some point.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:39 pm to ell_13
So what happens when a scientific law......suddenly isn't?
I'll grant that there are a couple of nodules that escape the direct effect......but while it won't makes fridges stop working, we would have to come to terms with the fact there are a frickton of explanations of how things work that aren't even up for debate right now are somehow wrong.
I'll grant that there are a couple of nodules that escape the direct effect......but while it won't makes fridges stop working, we would have to come to terms with the fact there are a frickton of explanations of how things work that aren't even up for debate right now are somehow wrong.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:40 pm to Guava Jelly
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Isn't there something about the Higgs boson particle that is supposed to destabilize the universe within like 100 billion years (or some such nonsense)?
Seems like another cataclysmic event not unlike the big bang would just hit reset on all the shite that has happened the first time over.
This could all be completely off base since theoretical physics doesn't even make sense to theoretical physicists.
My big question is "Is this decay happening exponentially?" Things could come unwrapped quickly towards the end - just curious - nobody will be around to know most likely.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:40 pm to LucasP
I'm just waiting for someone to blame this on obama
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:41 pm to LSU1NSEC
By the time this universe dies and the Earth is destroyed, none of us will be here
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:42 pm to m2pro
Way to use a general point to address my specific post. Weather, is a game of probabilities with so many variables. Predicting temperatures from billions of years ago is as straight forward as looking far enough away with the correct equipment.
But yeah... All science is the same.
But yeah... All science is the same.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:43 pm to Volvagia
I understand and completely agree. This really comes down to my pet peeve of the inappropriate use of "literally".
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:44 pm to LSU1NSEC
The weed is getting too good. They need to cut back on this hybridization of the smoke.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:45 pm to Volvagia
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So what happens when a scientific law......suddenly isn't?
Mathematical models are changed to match observations, that's how science works.
Unless the weather guy is wrong, then we just give up on the whole thing.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:47 pm to LSU1NSEC
The theory is that it's an "inverse" of exponential increase. Meaning at the Big Bang the temp of the universe was almost infinite. It rushed down quickly after that and will continue to go down until it "almost" reaches zero.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:47 pm to WicKed WayZ
Pat Singleton can't even tell us if it's raining tomorrow and we are supposed to believe these sons of bitches?
I'd be more reliant on Les Miles' ability to select and develop a QB than these guys' ability to understand the universe.
And, that, my friends, is saying a lot.
I'd be more reliant on Les Miles' ability to select and develop a QB than these guys' ability to understand the universe.
And, that, my friends, is saying a lot.
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