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Beginning of End or New Lease On Life

Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:26 pm
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:26 pm
Miles is coming off of an 8-5 season. During the offseason, LSU has lost the Chief...and replaced him with Steele (arguably a downgrade). It has added Coach O, unquestionably an upgrade.

LSU has lost Bain, Valentine and LMFAO. Three players expected to contribute at the thinnest position on the roster, excluding QB.

LSU has arguably the most dynamic player in the conference in LF7. It has a budding All American in Jamal Adams. LSU has maybe the best receiving corp in the SEC.

LSU has potential at QB in Harris, but not enough separation to name him starter...even though Jennings has been arrested and suspended.

The SECw is the toughest it has ever been, perhaps.

LSU and Miles are unquestionably at a cross roads. Go 8-5 again, or worse, and claims of being elite are done.

Go 10-2 and win a major bowl...things could be headed towards elite status headed into 2016.

What is the more likely outcome and why?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98729 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:29 pm to
Heisman candidate RB, #1 recruiting class coming in. Future = bright.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:29 pm to
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LSU has potential at QB in Harris,


No we don't.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18514 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:29 pm to
All good Doc, enjoy the season
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2944 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:30 pm to
Double digit wins, we will be ok. Still tons of talent, above average QB play and we are in the thick of things.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54866 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:33 pm to
New lease on life. It's the beginning of the season now this may change come middle of November
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8541 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:33 pm to
Or the realization that the last three years have been the middle of the end that began in January 2012.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:36 pm to
We've got a tough schedule in the most difficult division of football. 9 wins and no hideous blowouts (see Auburn 2014) is a successful season imo.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38263 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:37 pm to
We're going to the ship with the 2014 class at some point.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59509 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:39 pm to
I'm cautiously optimistic. But we have a tough schedule, and some of our problems are systemic.
Posted by bayouman
Uptown NOLA
Member since Apr 2012
1561 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:53 pm to
Why can't people just be excited because a new season is here? I guess some just look for BS to worry about.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:56 pm to
We're playing 15 this year.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
16023 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:59 pm to
I've come to the conclusion that in no way, shape or form is Steele a downgrade from Chavis. John Chavis cost LSU many wins because of his approach and he was a lazy recruiter. We will be fine.

Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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61199 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:18 pm to
Steele is the x-factor, it was an underwhelming hire. The D staff otherwise is strong, so it may turn out ok, or he could be to Les what Tepper was to Dinardo.

I personally think the offense will be good this year. Fournette is a generational type player and all indications are the staff is going to take some of the complexity out of the offense.
Posted by BRTiger2005
Member since May 2005
1270 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:42 pm to
This is a bit dramatic.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:09 pm to
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LSU has lost Bain, Valentine and LMFAO.


Two of these never played a down at LSU....the other never played significant minutes. Yet we LOST them...sky is falling. LMFAO (not talking about the player lmfao).

When I saw who started this thread, I clicked on it to see how stupid it might be....I wasn't disappointed.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

Beginning of End or New Lease On Life


quote:

What is the more likely outcome and why?


New Lease On Life and here is why

quote:

Miles is coming off of an 8-5 season. During the offseason, LSU has lost the Chief...and replaced him with Steele (arguably a downgrade). It has added Coach O, unquestionably an upgrade.


Chavis was a cancer and 3rd Chavis cost us more than once. Chavis also cost Tennesse multiple games throughout his career there. So even though Steele is a question mark, it is better than a known cancer. Coach O is also bringing the energy back to the defense that it hasn't had since TM7 was booted from the team.

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LSU has lost Bain, Valentine and LMFAO. Three players expected to contribute at the thinnest position on the roster, excluding QB.



That does sting, but if a player doesn't want to be here or is a troublemaker it is better they aren't here. Attitude and/or off the field distractions destroying a lockerroom is the last thing you want in a year like this.

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LSU has arguably the most dynamic player in the conference in LF7. It has a budding All American in Jamal Adams. LSU has maybe the best receiving corp in the SEC.




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LSU has potential at QB in Harris, but not enough separation to name him starter...even though Jennings has been arrested and suspended.


Serious question, how the f**k is Miles suppose to name Harris the starter before camp begins? He is not suppose to have any contact with the players other than disciplinary actions, so how would he expect to name Harris the starter? Don't you want him to atleast sit down with Harris before telling him that he is the starter? Plus iron sharpens iron and competition brings out the best in a player, so as long as there is a starter in place (doesn't have to be announced) 7-10 days before the 1st game and we are good to go.

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The SECw is the toughest it has ever been, perhaps.


Iron sharpens iron and this is what the players and the coaches signed up for. It was also stacked in 2011 and we made it just fine then. Plus I see the SEC West being a let-down this year. MSU is going to fall back to 8 wins, OM is going to be a 7-9 win team, Arky is getting better but they are not there yet and A&M has a major lack of talent on defense and a DC that gave away leads with the most talent any DC could ever want. They better hope their offense gets them a min of a 14 pt lead going into the 4th or they will lose. Bama is vulnerable and their schedule is tough early (#18 Wisconsin, #15 Ole Miss, #9 UGA and #20 Arkansas in the first half of the season) Bama could very easily have 1 or 2 losses by the time they play us and Auburn in Nov. I have zero clue as to how Auburn will be so I won't offer a prediction on them.

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Go 10-2 and win a major bowl...things could be headed towards elite status headed into 2016.


If Harris/Jennings play well we go 11-1 and if Harris/Jennings plays average we go 10-2 and if they play bad we go 9-3.
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
1524 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 1:09 am to
This is the beginning of the end. For the following reasons:
[1] Was not able to replace veteran DC
[2] Lost key players on defense due to attrition
[3] Poor QB play, no matter who the QB / OC is.
[4] The SEC West is brutal.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26271 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 5:29 am to
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Go 8-5 again, or worse, and claims of being elite are done.

We have 11 losses the last 3 seasons with one BCS Bowl appearance in the last 7 seasons.

Safe to say we haven't been "elite" for some time now
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