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re: The Gentrification of New Orleans
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:23 pm to TigerLicks
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:23 pm to TigerLicks
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TigerLicks
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That dump is what it is now and it won't change.
It has changed so much in the last 10 years. Kids can go to public schools now and neighborhoods from 2002, when you left are completely unrecognizable. Don't write NOLA off. Do we need more police? Of course, is crime a serious issue, of course. Things are better since my old arse 50 year old person has been alive.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:26 pm to glassman
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It is better than when you grew up. Much better.
Sorry, poor wording on my part. It was awesome when I was a kid. It got much worse when I was an adult. But, I still love my city of NOLA..
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:29 pm to Ed Osteen
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I lucked out and found a house online within minutes of being posted. Completely renovated with new appliances. I met the real estate guy the next morning and he said he had over 30 calls within 24 hours for the house.
That doesn't surprise me.
We feel like we ended up lucking out a bit too. Woman who owned our house was a TERRIBLE decorator. Made the house look a lot worse than it was.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:30 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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LaToya Cantrell's thoughts on the issue was that, basically, don't come into a black neighborhood and complain about the kids playing horns in the streets. In other words, if you're white and you move into a neighborhood that's not currently all-white, disturbing the peace and noise ordinances don't apply. Don't be coming in here with all your laws and civil expectations and stuff.
Whats wrong with assimilating to the norms of a neighborhood? Especially if they have to assimilate to our societal norms?
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:30 pm to undecided
To answer the OP's question, gentrification will indeed affect the "essence" of the city. I think it's safe to assume essence in this context is defined as: neighborhood identity, music, traditions, etc omitting drugs, violence, blight, and crime. Gentrification of neighborhoods will price out residents to be moved into affordable neighborhoods in other areas of the city. Nevertheless, these residents will still be in town and they will be able to congregate in the historic cultural centers but not live there.
The largest contribution of "essence" being lost should be attributed to the demolition of the housing projects. That itself has very little to do with reverse white flight.
The largest contribution of "essence" being lost should be attributed to the demolition of the housing projects. That itself has very little to do with reverse white flight.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:31 pm to Sparkplug#1
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It was awesome when I was a kid. It got much worse when I was an adult
Late 80's and early 90's the entire city was a true warzone. It is nothing close now and those without a decent income are going to be forced to The East, the West Bank or even St Bernard for affordable housing. Thousands of health care related jobs are coming and housing needs close to those areas are going to force people out.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:33 pm to glassman
when, if ever, do you see the lower 9th gentrifying?
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:35 pm to glassman
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Things are better since my old arse 50 year old person has been alive.
That's kind of silly, no? I'm all for what's happening in NOLA but the city is no where near the southern powerhouse it was until the bust. I read a stat the other day that the Metro area is still down 1,600 businesses from 2005. That's a huge number still, and even bigger when you consider a good number of big publicly traded companies left.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:42 pm to rocket31
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when, if ever, do you see the lower 9th gentrifying?
Already happening. At a slower pace, but look near the old Holy Cross.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:42 pm to constant cough
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I never go to Bourbon St. When I go to New Orleans its to see family or do business and as soon as I'm done with that I leave and come back home.
Good. Next time just make a phone call. We don't want you and your piss poor attitude to ruin our culture anyway
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:43 pm to NWTS_
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Whats wrong with assimilating to the norms of a neighborhood?
I don't know if your question is sarcasm or not. In case it's not......
My point was the city coucilperson's overriding attitude that people who, in essence, improve a block/neighborhood should accept and expect behavior that wouldn't be tolerated in other cities or in other parts of the city. She cleverly disguised it by referring to it in the terms of an innocent boy tooting his horn at night and using the dreaded term "culture." When the real issues in poor neighborhoods have more to do with nefarious activity and general lawlessness. She was saying that white people would be wrong to expect or demand people to generally have good behavior. That to be black in New Orleans MEANS to engage in activities that others wouldn't approve of or understand. And that those activities, no matter how innocent or not, should be protected ethically.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:45 pm to NIH
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That's kind of silly, no?
It's at least the best it's been since the late 70's. No lying.
If you don't believe the reports and articles, etc, go ride around the different neighborhoods. I recommend doing it on a bike.
Someone who hasn't been through most places since the 80's wouldn't recognize it. The easy spots are the Marigny, WHD, Bywater, Oak Street, and Mid City.
Treme, Freret, and the Irish Channel are the ones that blow me away with how quick thinkgs are happening.
Uncle Ted who teaches his N.O. culture classes in the lunch room at the plants probably hates life right now, but things are def. different.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:48 pm to NIH
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and even bigger when you consider a good number of big publicly traded companies left.
Is there any sort of list or article that contains a summary of which companies left? I'm sure they left for Houston
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:48 pm to fightin tigers
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but look near the old Holy Cross.
I'm so glad that stuff is finally happening. The loud but ignorant fcks fought it like crazy and probably hurt the final product, but I'm glad it's moving forward.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:49 pm to notiger1997
Right
NOLA has white folk moving in and new restaurants and bars but the city in 2015 does not carry near the same economic or national importance that it did until the oil bust in the 80s. New bars and restaurants are great but murder rates that make national news, water boil advisories, bad suburban schools, horrid public schools, etc will scare away a lot of possible development.
NOLA has white folk moving in and new restaurants and bars but the city in 2015 does not carry near the same economic or national importance that it did until the oil bust in the 80s. New bars and restaurants are great but murder rates that make national news, water boil advisories, bad suburban schools, horrid public schools, etc will scare away a lot of possible development.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:53 pm to tigerbait2010
TIME Article from 2007
Apparently NOLA had 23 public companies pre-K and 12 a couple years after. Superior Energy has since moved to Houston to it's probably still around 10-12. That's dreadful. I believe Houston has around 500+.
Apparently NOLA had 23 public companies pre-K and 12 a couple years after. Superior Energy has since moved to Houston to it's probably still around 10-12. That's dreadful. I believe Houston has around 500+.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:57 pm to notiger1997
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The loud but ignorant fcks fought it like crazy and probably hurt the final product, but I'm glad it's moving forward.
The riverfront developments that are proposed are pretty promising, not sure what actually gets done.
I know Algiers is banding together to fight their waterfront developing now.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:57 pm to NIH
tourism is at an all-time high my friend and those numbers are also making plenty of national news.
even in the slow season (june-august) hotels, restaurants, and bars are packed
even in the slow season (june-august) hotels, restaurants, and bars are packed
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:59 pm to rocket31
Tourism is great but it is not going to bring back the white collar jobs New Orleans needs.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:00 pm to NIH
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new restaurants and bars
It's not that hard to read up on all of the small start ups, including tech companies that are opening shop. There is a lot going on with the new medical/bio-district, etc as well.
These people flooding into the city faster than they can build condo and houses aren't come here to work in restaurants and bars no matter what some of the scary news headlines will have you believe.
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