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1. Agreed, but I do feel like he may not understand how to cultivate relationships or that he makes an effort to. How some people perceive that is based off their life experiences. I dont think we can lessen others feelings just because it hurts us to say he may not understand the culture of younger people. He doesnt have kids to my knowledge-- that may hurt him as well. If he had young adult kids, then Id be shocked to see him have these type of issues.

Lets analyze Chip Kellys comments from yesterday:

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No, and I said talk to the players we have on our current team. We have an open door policy. I had a long talk with Brandon last spring when he came in and sat down and talked with me. You can come talk to me whenever you want to come talk to me. But, we also have a pretty structured day where guys are in meetings. I don't just sit and walk around and say, ‘Hey, let me go grab him and let's sit down and let’s have a coffee together.’

When they get here, they are doing stuff. Especially in the offseason, we are limited with our time. When you get guys for four hours, there's not a time where we are all sitting around holding hands singing ‘Kumbaya’ together. We're in meetings rooms getting stuff done. They are in the weight room getting stuff done and they are on the training field getting stuff done and then they are out of there. I think maybe if they expand our time, where we could spend more time.

I don't think it's any different than any other head coaches in terms of where you are. I think position coaches – that's one of the things I miss about being a position coach. You get to be pretty close to your players because you're with your players all the time, and that's a great bond to have but as a head coach, you're not in those meetings.

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My first issue with these comments is the "they can come to me" attitude. IMO, that is a poor form of leadership, a form of leadership that doesnt show much investment in the personal well-beings of the players. He doesnt see that the huge problem is that NOONE wants to go talk to him, so why in the hell would they choose to go talk to him, when he knows they probably wont and when they think he doesnt like them. He must not care. Whether you say that is necessary or not, multiple studies and things have showed that empowerment of your employees and having them feel more invested in your goals improves performance. By him saying, "they can come talk to me" but then follow that up with "but our days are structure" doesnt really sound like hes open to the prospects of forming or molding those relationships. It could be a personality thing or it could be a stragetic manuever.

He has a clear misunderstanding of how much he NEEDS people. All his "Structure" appears to be apart of the problem.He devalues people and relationships with people, especially in this business; he looks at them like pieces to a machine. It doesnt work that way, especially when must of them make more $ then you. HE NEEDS THOSE BLACK DUDES. his response cant be "well those black dudes can come talk to me." No! Step out of your comfort zone and go mend the fences. You need those relationships to succeed..who will you depend after you run all your "guys" out of town, or if you cant get you guys?

Its a maneuver that could burn him if the conditions in the locker room deteriorate, for example, after or in the midst of a multiple game losing streak. Do you think the players will want to talk to him then, or will believe him when he tries to rally the troops? It will look fake arse hell and they wont buy into it. The fact that he can schedule in random chit chat time or team building looks to me like he thinks his system can plug and chug players, and that he is not a very amendable coach to his personnel and players. I know we were discussing Belicheck earlier; how many times have we seen him flip from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and back to a 4-3 based of his players skill sets? We have seen him go from ground and pound to an air raid offense; hes more adaptable than it appears.

Aaron Hernandez, gronk, Alonzo Dennard, spikes, Blount, etc disagree

"Idiots": "but coach, this a results driven league, and we didn't have one player that could knock off the top of a coverage, vertically, last year. But you chose to keep a receiver that is the worst in the league, who is a decisive figure in the locker room, overpaid, and can't stretch a coverage. Shouldn't he be cut like other players that fit his profile"

Chip Kelly's: "well.."

You don't even have to compare him to a black coach--- has a white coach ever been accused of this ? I haven't heard of it. and I'm sure we've had a more than few questionable head coaches

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You keep pushing "culture" yet continue to ignore the obvious. He has signed African American players, he has always had black players, he recruited black players, he has dealt with players like Blount in college.
The Riley thing happened, people moved on but for some players they didn't and now they are using that one incident to cast stones on Kelly. He isn't a racist any more than any other NFL coach. McCoy and Boykin were not "urban" players from the "hood" either.

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Players keep count of who got "paid" and their comparative skill level. It's called competitive jealousy. Riley cooper was rated as the worst starting WR in all of football last year by multiple advanced stats groups, and the eye test meets the stats. The players know he is a marginal player, but saw a franchise stand behind him and pay him for being a below average to inadequate starting receiver.

He stays, despite his ability to tear apart a locker room, but desean gets shipped (they suffered without him), Maclin is let go (we'll see) and shady is traded? We know it probably amounts to more than just cap numbers for why they traded, but in a results orientated league, were premium talent is hard to find...he ships all of them out to keep the worst receiver in football?

Could anyone see how some players may potentially see this In a different light or how he may be condoning the nothingness that Riley cooper brings to the team? Especially as he is a coach that picks and chooses his players? Would u chose to hold on to a potentially decisive player (because of his previous act and not his current disposition) who happens to be a fringe contributer as well? Most NFL teams would have cut the bait instead of giving him an inflated contract extension

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What do you guys think it is? I just heard sal palentino of ESPN say hes never seen a head coach, including the coaches from the past generations who wed think would have a harder time connecting with todays generation/culture, have such a disconnect and have so many ex players bash him with the same sentiments.

I think there is something there, and part of it stems from KEllys coaching style. These are grown men and have to be treated like so. You have to earn their respect, not the other way around. I see it as kinda paternalistic, and especially considering the african american perspective and history, I see how they could see shades of race issues in this.

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31 downvotes?

White males, including myself, really like denying the existence of a social tool (racism) we have used for along time. 31 butt hurt reality deniers. Not saying this is the cause, but lets not act like its impossible for a white guy to potentially be racist to black people :lol:

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think something is weird about Chip but I don't think he's racist. Its just sort of sad that the race card has to be played.

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Agreed, but IMO, you cant discredit the african american experience or the experiences of those players. A team builder considers all of that when it comes to building a connection with his team.

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I don't think he's a racist at all and that one or two guys idiotic comments have smeared his image while one or two others are just piggybacking onto that stupidity. But hey, just my opinion. If Chip was a racist how could he even stand to be a football coach? This topic needs to die soon.

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There are racist in every walk of life that smile and laugh with us. $ and power trump his feelings at the end of the day

They arent black so many they didnt experience those black players perspectives. That doesnt devalue the other players sentiments.