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re: How did Catholic High not win state in football last year
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:00 pm to choupiquesushi
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:00 pm to choupiquesushi
Who is the one? Rachel?
Posted on 7/27/15 at 2:04 pm to lsu31always
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Who is the one? Rachel?
yep but I do think he actually turned some down to walk on at LSU.
since 1977 i think the total number is 3 which is pretty stout
Posted on 7/27/15 at 3:04 pm to tigerskin
Weiner is a great coach, and a better human being. He has a gotten the raw end of the stick numerous times, but sadly, some of his best teams just didnt have the luck or didnt play their A game in the last games they lost.
that 2006 team of his was probably, pound for pound, his best overall team, top to bottom, defense and offense. I may be wrong about this, but I do think 3? of their defensive linemen that year played in the NFL/AFL/CFL and their running back was in the NFL for more than 2 years. They had a D1/D1AA player at every position but didnt play their best ball in the playoffs.
They were in tight games, or down in many of their playoff games and really had a "lights on" "lights off" switch as a team. From what i remember hearing, they at times got a little to overconfident, being a nationally ranked team, and it bit them in the arse.
The acadiana game was a game of 2 halves, and had catholic played even their B- game in the 1st half, they would have walked away with a 10+ point victory. They slept walked during the 1st and 2nd quarters, and acadiana feasted on the teams one weaker line-- the secondary. They turned their lights on in the second half, and dominanted acadiana. I believe acadiana only had 10-20 yards of positive offensive in the whole second half. some dicey play calling did them in on the final drive, but they had a shot to tie it up after a late 4th quarter TD, but their star RB dropped a 2 point conversion as he was heading into the endzone for a score.
The box score would have made you think that catholic had dominated them, but they had 2 or 3 costly turnovers, and one of their tight ends dropped a simple drop pass in the endzone in the second quarter that screwed them. the bears decision to go for it on 4th down around the mid field line was the deciding factor. Acadiana had a d1 kicker, Drew Alleman? and Acadiana hit a 40+ yard field goal at the end of the 1st half that could have been prevented by catholic just punting the ball away.
That was the game that got away from them, and its probably the game bear fans will never forget.
also, what separated this catholic team from probably all of the other teams they had had was that their defensive and offensive lines were meaty, tall, heavy and athletic. The average weight for the offensive line had to have been 250-260lbs. There were at least 8 D1/D1AA quality lineman that team.
that 2006 team of his was probably, pound for pound, his best overall team, top to bottom, defense and offense. I may be wrong about this, but I do think 3? of their defensive linemen that year played in the NFL/AFL/CFL and their running back was in the NFL for more than 2 years. They had a D1/D1AA player at every position but didnt play their best ball in the playoffs.
They were in tight games, or down in many of their playoff games and really had a "lights on" "lights off" switch as a team. From what i remember hearing, they at times got a little to overconfident, being a nationally ranked team, and it bit them in the arse.
The acadiana game was a game of 2 halves, and had catholic played even their B- game in the 1st half, they would have walked away with a 10+ point victory. They slept walked during the 1st and 2nd quarters, and acadiana feasted on the teams one weaker line-- the secondary. They turned their lights on in the second half, and dominanted acadiana. I believe acadiana only had 10-20 yards of positive offensive in the whole second half. some dicey play calling did them in on the final drive, but they had a shot to tie it up after a late 4th quarter TD, but their star RB dropped a 2 point conversion as he was heading into the endzone for a score.
The box score would have made you think that catholic had dominated them, but they had 2 or 3 costly turnovers, and one of their tight ends dropped a simple drop pass in the endzone in the second quarter that screwed them. the bears decision to go for it on 4th down around the mid field line was the deciding factor. Acadiana had a d1 kicker, Drew Alleman? and Acadiana hit a 40+ yard field goal at the end of the 1st half that could have been prevented by catholic just punting the ball away.
That was the game that got away from them, and its probably the game bear fans will never forget.
also, what separated this catholic team from probably all of the other teams they had had was that their defensive and offensive lines were meaty, tall, heavy and athletic. The average weight for the offensive line had to have been 250-260lbs. There were at least 8 D1/D1AA quality lineman that team.
This post was edited on 7/27/15 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 7/27/15 at 4:48 pm to NWTS_
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That was the game that got away from them, and its probably the game bear fans will never forget.
CHS had a damn good team. Huge down the lines and had playmakers all over the field. Unfortunately for them, none of them could kick a ball or block Winky Journet.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 5:46 pm to Lester Earl
Woopti. That was a semifinal team that lost a close one to WM with a hurt qb.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 5:49 pm to choupiquesushi
Yea, Carlos walked on to LSU. He had a couple off offers. His younger brother Jaren was just as good of an athlete, but had a heart defect that prevented him from playing
Posted on 7/27/15 at 5:56 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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CHS had a damn good team. Huge down the lines and had playmakers all over the field. Unfortunately for them, none of them could kick a ball or block Winky Journet.
They put their DE in at TE in the 4th quarter and one on one, the DE dominated Journet. It was a little too late though. They schemed to run away from Journet purposedly too, but Journet sniffed them all out, trailing as an unblocked weakside defender. He did this multiple times during the game.
At the pro level, teams should have motioned in a WR or had a backside blocker chip/cut him to prevent his trail technique.
Or would have gone spread zone read to keep his responsibilites to the QB
This post was edited on 7/27/15 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 7/27/15 at 8:09 pm to NWTS_
I can tell you why they lost to BM, they threw the ball over 30 times. Give the ball to Guice over and over, and they win.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 8:11 pm to 610man
Guise got stuffed at the one yard line with the game on the line.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 9:02 pm to 5Alive
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Woopti. That was a semifinal team that lost a close one to WM with a hurt qb.
yeah ok i watched that game on tv. you could have played from then till now without scoring
Posted on 7/27/15 at 9:38 pm to 610man
guice scored, from the replay I saw.
Weiner starts to throw more, people kill him. He has a stable of D1 running backs, he runs the ball too much.
Catholic High is the nations RBU. Which other university has produce as many D1/NFL RBs as catholic in the last 25 years? at one point they had D1 runningback per season. Its amazing and im surprised no one has done a story on it yet.
Weiner starts to throw more, people kill him. He has a stable of D1 running backs, he runs the ball too much.
Catholic High is the nations RBU. Which other university has produce as many D1/NFL RBs as catholic in the last 25 years? at one point they had D1 runningback per season. Its amazing and im surprised no one has done a story on it yet.
Posted on 7/27/15 at 9:38 pm to lsu31always
They threw the ball over 30 times with an average hs qb. Give the ball to Guice 30 times, he's a D1 rb. He got them bavk in game. Poor play calling
Posted on 7/27/15 at 9:42 pm to NWTS_
Nwts. Seen that play from many angles. Ball was well short of the goal line - guide did get his head across but not ball
Posted on 7/27/15 at 9:51 pm to NWTS_
Ball has to cross not helmet. Fact is, Guise got stood up by Teamer.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 7:53 pm to Honest Tune
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The scary part is, of the 96, 97, 98 WM teams, the 96 team may have been the least talented. Let that sink in for a tic.
This is correct. Considering the 96 team was packed full of Sophomores. That's why two years later, the 1998 team was one of the best HS football teams the world has ever seen.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:08 pm to WM
Yes they were. I remember that 98 team as the strongest (Sanders is a bad man) and most talented team in the country that year. Props to Shows, he ran a great program.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:23 pm to Honest Tune
If my memory serves me right, players with significant playing time that played Div 1, 2, 3 football or college baseball. Wish I could remember them all. I'll take a shot. Someone fill free to add too and/or correct me.
QB1 Lane Laborde ULM Baseball
QB2 Maxie Causey LA Tech Football
TB Kenny Robinson ??
RB Tamission Davis LA Tech Football
FB Willis Britton Harding FB
FB Mark Banks ULM Football
WR Marcus Turner 1998 Offensive MVP McNeese St Football
WR Brooks Greer ULM Football ???
TE Andrew Whitworth LSU Football then Cincinnati Bengals
OL Rodney Reed LSU FOotball
OL Lance Wright Grambling Football
OL Landon Fleming ???
OL Josh Pate Arkansas Football ???
DL Terrance Tarver Tulane Fooball
DL Brian West Chicago White Sox then LSU Football
DL Josh Deason ULM Football ???
LB Jason Ledoux Texas A&M Football and LSU Football
LB Bradie James 1998 Defensive MVP LSU and Dallas Cowboys
DB Corey Brazil LA Tech Football
DB Chad Pilcher Ole Miss Football
DB Michael Freeman Baseball ???
DB Ron McBeth Baseball ???
DB Jay Aulds Baseball ???
DB Chess Hill Baseball ???
And special acknowledgment to Place Kicker, Lee Deal, who made the ultimate sacrifice for all of us in Iraq.
Also, WR Marcus Turner, WR Brooks Greer, FB Willis Britton, WR Mookie Williams, RB Kenny Robinson/Alternate won State in the 4x100 relay the next spring.
QB1 Lane Laborde ULM Baseball
QB2 Maxie Causey LA Tech Football
TB Kenny Robinson ??
RB Tamission Davis LA Tech Football
FB Willis Britton Harding FB
FB Mark Banks ULM Football
WR Marcus Turner 1998 Offensive MVP McNeese St Football
WR Brooks Greer ULM Football ???
TE Andrew Whitworth LSU Football then Cincinnati Bengals
OL Rodney Reed LSU FOotball
OL Lance Wright Grambling Football
OL Landon Fleming ???
OL Josh Pate Arkansas Football ???
DL Terrance Tarver Tulane Fooball
DL Brian West Chicago White Sox then LSU Football
DL Josh Deason ULM Football ???
LB Jason Ledoux Texas A&M Football and LSU Football
LB Bradie James 1998 Defensive MVP LSU and Dallas Cowboys
DB Corey Brazil LA Tech Football
DB Chad Pilcher Ole Miss Football
DB Michael Freeman Baseball ???
DB Ron McBeth Baseball ???
DB Jay Aulds Baseball ???
DB Chess Hill Baseball ???
And special acknowledgment to Place Kicker, Lee Deal, who made the ultimate sacrifice for all of us in Iraq.
Also, WR Marcus Turner, WR Brooks Greer, FB Willis Britton, WR Mookie Williams, RB Kenny Robinson/Alternate won State in the 4x100 relay the next spring.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:35 pm to WM
2 starting qbs. What offense were they running?
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:02 pm to WM
Wasn't Jay Aulds a starting catcher for ULM?
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