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re: Kermit Ruffins' sister asking for donations to bury her daughter

Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:36 pm to
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by yellowfin
I'm not up for rewarding people for poor decisions




Pretty sure 2 middle class cops didn't think their presumably well raised daughter would get gunned down in a drive by shooting
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:39 pm to
You're a good man

That is what families do. What's the point of an (extended) family unit if it becomes every man (clan) for him(it)self when push comes to shove or when adversity hits?

This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 7:40 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:41 pm to
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Pretty sure 2 middle class cops didn't think their presumably well raised daughter would get gunned down in a drive by shooting

nobody ever thinks they don't need insurance, until they do

fin's point was valid

this is like people who refuse to buy disability policies and flip out if they get hurt
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:43 pm to
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That is what families do. What's the point of an (extended) family unit if it becomes every man (clan) for him(it)self when push comes to shove or when adversity hits?

being emotionally available for family is different than being their piggy bank
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:46 pm to
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nobody ever thinks they don't need insurance, until they do




a lot of middle class people cant afford, and many more aren't educated on it, esp blacks in new orleans
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:46 pm to
Plenty of good families who live paycheck to paycheck and don't have the funds for insurance on their children, or on themselves. It is a harsh reality, but it doesn't make them irresponsible. Most people don't even consider the loss of a child.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:47 pm to
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a lot of middle class people cant afford, and many more aren't educated on it, esp blacks in new orleans

well they'll never learn if we keep bailing them out of bad decisions. we will incentivize bad behavior. that's hardly optimal
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:49 pm to
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Plenty of good families who live paycheck to paycheck and don't have the funds for insurance on their children, or on themselves.

life insurance that would cover a burial on a young adult is less than one person's portion at a restaurant in the range of chillis

so if a family of 3 goes out to eat one less time per month, they can buy 3+ months of life insurance

i'll go for the killer here: it's like 2-3 packs of cigarettes a month
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:51 pm to
i wouldnt call it bad behavior

would you donate to a friend's family if one of your friends would pass away?

Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:53 pm to
Yep.

People only care about instant gratification buying shite. The future is for the gubment to pay for.
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:55 pm to
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nobody ever thinks they don't need insurance, until they do

fin's point was valid

this is like people who refuse to buy disability policies and flip out if they get hurt


He is right, people should have emergency savings on top of their savings. Americans live beyond their means.

But we don't know everyone financial situation, and do know how they were making ends meet. Kinda short sighted to regard their move as dumb when we don't know their full story
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:55 pm to
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would you donate to a friend's family if one of your friends would pass away?

all of my friends' families have more money than me (or the individual makes more than i do)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:56 pm to
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People only care about instant gratification buying shite. The future is for the gubment to pay for.

it gets annoying

same with people who don't bitch when their investments artificially increase in price and then claim poverty when it falls in a correction

see: 2008 (and probably 2016)

*ETA: or friends who by over-inflated assets like country club houses or $70k trucks and then flip out when a slight economic ripple hits
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 7:57 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:56 pm to
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Plenty of good families who live paycheck to paycheck and don't have the funds for insurance on their children, or on themselves. It is a harsh reality, but it doesn't make them irresponsible. Most people don't even consider the loss of a child.


Most of the time, those families don't consider that. Sometimes it's choice between funding worse case scenario insurances and a tuition bill, school books, gas, utilities, etc
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:56 pm to
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life insurance that would cover a burial on a young adult is less than one person's portion at a restaurant in the range of chillis

so if a family of 3 goes out to eat one less time per month, they can buy 3+ months of life insurance

i'll go for the killer here: it's like 2-3 packs of cigarettes a month



You and I know that. They don't. It is a really bad situation that adds financial stress to an even worse situation. I can't imagine losing my son and having to bury him. Yes, bad decisions are real, but tragedy is just terrible.
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:57 pm to
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all of my friends' families have more money than me (or the individual makes more than i do)


So you wouldn't?

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:58 pm to
I think these things are one of the few good things that have resulted from social media.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:59 pm to
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You and I know that. They don't

yeah well when i say it (to them and everyone else) i'm called an a-hole. that's ridiculous

quote:

It is a really bad situation that adds financial stress to an even worse situation.

i get this and funeral homes may be the worst scum of the earth, and i get that it's an emotional time, but the issue occurred before the tragedy
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:00 pm to
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Sometimes it's choice between funding worse case scenario insurances and a tuition bill, school books, gas, utilities, etc


Everyday stuff always gets priority. When tragedy hits, it just sucks. I'd venture that less than 10% of the population has insurance on their kids and on their own burial. Those that do, have taken a huge burden off their loved ones.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:00 pm to
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So you wouldn't?

why would i give money to a friend's family who lives in the country club to bury their child? seriously
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