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re: Kermit Ruffins' sister asking for donations to bury her daughter
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:16 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:16 pm to SabiDojo
i gave money because her husband had just left her and she lost her job on like Dec 14 or something. so i paypal'd her money to buy presents
i wouldn't do it again b/c i don't believe in incentivizing that sort of risk-taking behavior. i've seen way too many women in similar situations who make bad mating decisions (and continue to do so) and leave their kids in a lurch b/c they get too comfy not being productive on their own. their husband leaves and they act like they're helpless.
i wouldn't do it again b/c i don't believe in incentivizing that sort of risk-taking behavior. i've seen way too many women in similar situations who make bad mating decisions (and continue to do so) and leave their kids in a lurch b/c they get too comfy not being productive on their own. their husband leaves and they act like they're helpless.
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:17 pm to yellowfin
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You can get a term life policy on a child for less than $10 a month
I'm sure I could find room for that in their budget.
I'm not disagreeing with you, at all. Just that 90% of the population never thinks about that scenario. I've had insurance on me since I was born and so has my son.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:17 pm to Deactived
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"Stuff like Science and history should be electives, not mandatory."
i think this would be a pretty terrible thing for schools to do.
just curious why?
many time those things are learned but never retained. I can't tell you the last time I applied anything i learned in a science or history class to my every day life.
Math and english, very important.
those other things, not so
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:19 pm to Lester Earl
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what good is educating them if it isnt functional?
the science you learn in high school is functional and it builds for higher learning
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how many people learn this on their own? I dont know many.
many of my friends have. some had good parents teach a bunch, but most had to learn the hard way (mostly in college)
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the science you learn in high school is functional
care to give some examples?
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and it builds for higher learning
higher learning how? college? maybe if you go into a related field.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:21 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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Did she offer any of that money for a burial??
Of course she did. MIL is a wonderful person but there was no way in hell we would accept any of that money.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:23 pm to Lester Earl
I think science and math go hand in hand together. I agree they should add in some of the things yall are talking about related to financial situations and the future. These dont have to come at the cost of other subjects though.
When is the last time you have really applied anything to your every day life that you learned in high school or elementary?
When is the last time you have really applied anything to your every day life that you learned in high school or elementary?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:25 pm to chillygentilly
Had a friend of a friend who is an attorney, he worked for a small firm that probably didn't offer very affordable health insurance so he choose to not insure his wife. It probably saved him $300 a month when he was making 6 figures. She got cancer, it was nothing life threatening but cost them a lot of money. I refused to attend benefit or donate anything because they made a decision not to pay for insurance.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:26 pm to Lester Earl
understanding chemistry and biology is really important for understanding everyday things from emotions to cooking. how to avoid getting sick. what medicines you should look for. what cleaning products not to mix. dieting. all of that kind of stuff.
history is very important for any sort of well-rounded education. history becomes the basis for most philosophy and political understanding. it's very difficult to have any sort of sense of what the world is, without a sense of history (especially western history from greece onward).
if you want to be a well-rounded, educated individual, history and science knowledge is really important
history is very important for any sort of well-rounded education. history becomes the basis for most philosophy and political understanding. it's very difficult to have any sort of sense of what the world is, without a sense of history (especially western history from greece onward).
if you want to be a well-rounded, educated individual, history and science knowledge is really important
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:26 pm to Deactived
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When is the last time you have really applied anything to your every day life that you learned in high school or elementary?
English (writing skills/reading/context) i use every day. I find in the internet age, it has become even more important then what it was 15 years ago.
math is commonly used everyday.
I can't think of anything relating to science or social studies. I know some people use science, which is why I said it should be an elective. If you think you're going to need it for the future, then you take those classes.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
Oh goodness. "Man's mind is his basic tool of survival. Life is given to him, survival is not" sort of thing?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:28 pm to yellowfin
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It probably saved him $300 a month when he was making 6 figures. She got cancer
I can't get that. Trying to live way above the scale. Nothing is more important than health and love.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:28 pm to StrongSafety
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That is what families do. What's the point of an (extended) family unit if it becomes every man (clan) for him(it)self when push comes to shove or when adversity hits?
My sentiments exactly.
You have to circle the wagons and take care of your own.....except when they are fully able to take care of themselves but refuse to....frick them.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:29 pm to SabiDojo
when you hear the same fricking story over and over again, it just gets old
and then after you hear the sob story, you see them walk away smoking cigs
and i used to smoke a lot, and still do when i drink or here and there...but i can afford it. i buy them after i pay for my health insurance, life insurance, car insurance, put money into savings, pay my student loans, think about long-term investments, etc.
and then after you hear the sob story, you see them walk away smoking cigs
and i used to smoke a lot, and still do when i drink or here and there...but i can afford it. i buy them after i pay for my health insurance, life insurance, car insurance, put money into savings, pay my student loans, think about long-term investments, etc.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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understanding chemistry and biology is really important for understanding everyday things from emotions to cooking. how to avoid getting sick. what medicines you should look for. what cleaning products not to mix. dieting. all of that kind of stuff.
all things truly learned on a trial by error basis.
i didnt learn how to cook in school, and just about everything they teach about diet is wrong and outdated.
again in the internet age, all those things are insignificant in a school setting.
I can learn more about medicine in 3mins via the internet than what i learned in 15 years of schooling.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:33 pm to Lester Earl
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again in the internet age, all those things are insignificant in a school setting.
everything is insignificant in a school setting in the internet age if you want to look only at the surface
personal finance is a simple concept that has an attainable endpoint
the concepts i listed are building blocks that ultimately lead to the ability to improve yourself and understanding of the world
it's like surface v. meta
when you limit education to surface-level topics with endpoints, you basically doom that student to those end points
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:33 pm to Lester Earl
"I know some people use science, which is why I said it should be an elective. If you think you're going to need it for the future, then you take those classes."
Thats a pretty big decision to be left in the hands of a kid that might be around 9-14 years old.
If you left it as an elective and up to the student, how can they possibly catch up on the material if they change their minds about their curriculum a few years down the road?
Math is commonly used I guess. Things we learned as a young child. Unless your job requires advanced math, you probably only need basic addition and subtraction skills in a normal day.
Thats a pretty big decision to be left in the hands of a kid that might be around 9-14 years old.
If you left it as an elective and up to the student, how can they possibly catch up on the material if they change their minds about their curriculum a few years down the road?
Math is commonly used I guess. Things we learned as a young child. Unless your job requires advanced math, you probably only need basic addition and subtraction skills in a normal day.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
But those are only certain instances. Such stories shouldn't be a reason for giving up altruism in its entirety, right? Not all moments of charity are merely enabling risky behavior.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:40 pm to SabiDojo
You'd have to look really hard to find a bad situation where I wouldn't find a poor decision that led to it.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:43 pm to SabiDojo
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But those are only certain instances
i'd imagine that same pattern is found among the vast majority of the lower class
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. Such stories shouldn't be a reason for giving up altruism in its entirety, right?
giving is a very complex topic. the vast majority of the time it is a bad move. there are some instances where i could see it being valid. this belief that "giving is always good" is very simplistic and can lead to very evil results (see: the welfare state and our ghettos and trailer parks). as you get around more poor people, it's more evident. this concept really hit home when i read an article about how donating to sub-saharan africa has basically fricked the entire continent, and every time we go and over give/tip, we destroy their actual economies.
creating the operative definition and rules for giving would take a lot of thought. it's likely possible
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