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Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:40 am to jeff5891
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What's worse for the general public: an over policed state or an under policed state?
Well, I suppose that depends on where you live now doesnt it? Thug ghettos of Baltimore, yea police presence may be the only thing stopping 38 people per month from getting murdered.
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 8:41 am
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:44 am to Wayne Campbell
quote:And had a rap sheet a mile long and likely had pre-existing medical problems due to being an addict.
And dies while in police custody from injuries sustained while also in police custody? Or should we only tell half the story?
quote:Most of these cases are conjured bullshite that paints the police as being racist thugs no matter what the facts are. I wouldn't want to risk the ire of the PR witch hunt either.
Maybe cops should just do their jobs. And if that occasionally requires them to legally defend their methods, so be it.
And like the other poster said, I never see police in my neighborhood, and we're not all shooting each other. Obeying the law id not difficult for most people.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:50 am to Wayne Campbell
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d dies while in police custody from injuries sustained while also in police custody? Or should we only tell half the story? Maybe cops should just do their jobs. And if that occasionally requires them to legally defend their methods, so be it.
He was legally arrested and he was legally in custody. The officers screwed up by not calling for medical no doubt, but if you read the charges you can see that the overeach of the prosecutors in trying to make a case of murder.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:51 am to jeff5891
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What's worse for the general public: an over policed state or an under policed state?
Over policed, without question.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:53 am to Five0
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That is a two generation solution. Napalm is a two second solution.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:57 am to LSUSkip
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I never see cops in my neighborhood and thats ideal.
Agreed, the likelihood of an explosion quadruples when the cops come near my meth lab.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:01 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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d dies while in police custody from injuries sustained while also in police custody? Or should we only tell half the story? Maybe cops should just do their jobs. And if that occasionally requires them to legally defend their methods, so be it.
He was legally arrested and he was legally in custody. The officers screwed up by not calling for medical no doubt, but if you read the charges you can see that the overeach of the prosecutors in trying to make a case of murder.
That is the issue with the whole Gray thing. Arguments about the finer points of the arrest aside, the conduct at issue occurred AFTER THE INITIAL ARREST and in the van. The problem is that if they arrested based on that, all three officers arrested would have been black. That wouldn't work so they drummed up a conspiracy charge concept and arrested the three guys involved on the front end who all happened to be white. IMO, that is what the officers are all pissed about. If someone told me that I could do my job properly but still might get arrested because of my race and political expediency then I likely wouldn't work too damn hard either.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:04 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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He was legally arrested and he was legally in custody.
Which doesn't change the fact that he died in police custody from injuries sustained in police custody. His rap sheet or quality of the arrest does absolutely nothing to alter that.
The police are public servants, and as such need to be held accountable to the public. And that is true to a much wider extent than this one incident.
You can't just write off cops not doing their jobs because they don't want to risk bad PR or some potential legal issues.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:05 am to fillmoregandt
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26-year-old mother of seven
Idiocracy will be a reality
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:15 am to Wayne Campbell
quote:Sure you can. It's bizarro-Darwinism. Instead of the alphas seeking each other out for the purpose of propagation, the gammas seek each other out for the purpose of elimination.
You can't just write off cops not doing their jobs because they don't want to risk bad PR or some potential legal issues.
They're probably still being comfortably outscored by 26 year-olds with 7 kids, though.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:24 am to ithad2bme
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It's all about expecting what you accept. If the cops scaled back operations in my neighborhood, people feeling like they could do whatever they wanted and get away with it would not be an issue. The likes of Jackson, Sharpton, Holder, and Obama have created an environment in these areas where nobody is willing to take responsibility for their actions or the actions in their own community. They have been sold the idea that everything is someone elses fault and you shouldn't have any personal responsibility for your actions or the outcome of those actions.
There is a much stronger police presence in these neighborhoods than there is in my neighborhood, in fact I almost never see a cop. Why then don't people in my neighborhood feel like they can do whatever they want? It's because the rest of us in our community would keep them in check with or without the police presence, because we take responsibility for our actions, and expect the same from others in our community.
It's like this country is churning out Jeremy's from Peep Show.
“Why should I take responsibility for my actions? I just do my actions. It’s not as if I spend hours and hours thinking about them!”
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:29 am to Hangit
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The Mayor and the SJW's got exactly what they wanted. Is this now a problem or does pointing out that there is now almost no police presence constitute a victory dance?
And who are they going to blame. All of the city's upper mgmt are black. They have no white people to blame.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:30 am to Kracka
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And who are they going to blame.
This racist mother fricker!
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:34 am to Kracka
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And who are they going to blame. All of the city's upper mgmt are black. They have no white people to blame.
They blame the liberal white ex-mayor and current governor most likely because he's the biggest white target they know.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:52 am to jbgleason
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The problem is that if they arrested based on that, all three officers arrested would have been black. That wouldn't work so they drummed up a conspiracy charge concept and arrested the three guys involved on the front end who all happened to be white.
This caught me off guard because I haven't seen anyone say this before. So I went and googled the arrest images, and sure enough the three officers present during the arrest were white males. That would mean that the three people involved in the transportation of Gray would have been the two black males and one black female.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:53 am to Chappy
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This caught me off guard because I haven't seen anyone say this before. So I went and googled the arrest images, and sure enough the three officers present during the arrest were white males. That would mean that the three people involved in the transportation of Gray would have been the two black males and one black female.
I believe the driver, who is black, is charged with the biggest crime.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:55 am to upgrayedd
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I believe the driver, who is black, is charged with the biggest crime.
And do you find it funny that none of their faces are plastered all over TV like Darren Wilsons was during the Furguson fiasco.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:56 am to upgrayedd
Too much foolery for a Friday, folks...
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:57 am to Kracka
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And do you find it funny that none of their faces are plastered all over TV like Darren Wilsons was during the Furguson fiasco.
Eh. Once they were charged, they were blasted out pretty much everywhere.
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