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re: Student turns down entire Ivy League for University of Alabama

Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:29 am to
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:29 am to
It's more shocking that be couldn't get a full ride from at least one of those schools, especially with his athletics.

Hope he doesn't regret going to that shite hole of a school for the next 4 years. Seems like he'll
Make out well though.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:32 am to
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Kid should've went to John Hopkins.


Going to Hopkins undergrad doesn't guarantee you admittance to the med school. In fact, I heard it's more difficult.

I went to grad school with a couple of kids from Hopkins undergrad. Both were WEIRD. I was talking with them one day and they said that almost everyone who goes there wants to major in premed. By the end of the first year, they've already "convinced" most to switch majors/career paths. According to both of these guys, it's almost impossible to get into Hopkins Med School from Hopkins undergrad.

And, who in the hell wants to live in a shitty part of Baltimore for four years of undergrad.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40255 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:35 am to
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If you get accepted into Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, you have to go.


That is not true at all. I got into Yale and LSU. It would have cost me over a $100K to got to Yale and $0 to go to LSU. The old saying is money talks and bullshite walks it true.

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ETA: I missed the part about going to med school. That changes things.


If you are a resident of a southern state and have a decent undergrad gpa and decent mcat you will get into medical school and get a residency that will allow you to do whatever you want. The Alabama systems has the UAB medical school and it is a damn good medical school.

BTW F**K BAMA!
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68527 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:36 am to
Yeah you can never pay me enough to live in baltimore
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73181 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:36 am to
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That is not true at all. I got into Yale and LSU. It would have cost me over a $100K to got to Yale and $0 to go to LSU
so much ignorance in this thread

again for the millionth time.

YOU DONT HAVE TO PAY TO GO TO HARVARD OR YALE IF YOU GET IN....unless your family is rich
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:40 am to
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YOU DONT HAVE TO PAY TO GO TO HARVARD OR YALE IF YOU GET IN....unless your family is rich



Prove it!!

Just googled.

This kids family would have to be making less than 60k a year to be eligible. Also they don't pay for cost of living. Cost of living in Boston >>>>> free room and board at Alabama.

Either way he's saving money. Again. It all matters what his end game is. If he wants to be some big shot guy up north or something that requires connections, Ivy league might be a good decision. If he just wants to go back to his hometown and become a primary care physician. Going Ivy league would be a huge waste.
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 8:43 am
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:42 am to
Kid probably will score 32 on the MCAT in his sleep. Being a bro, he'll be a lock for most med schools.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:42 am to
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YOU DONT HAVE TO PAY TO GO TO HARVARD OR YALE IF YOU GET IN....unless your family is rich


That's a fairly recent phenomenon. I believe Larry Summers started the 100% grant policy at Harvard in the late 90's or early '00's. And, the other Ivy League schools followed suit. I think it's now something like a $140K, but it started out at something like $80K family income and you went free (assuming not a ton of other assets).

But, prior to this, you almost certainly had to incur all the federal guaranteed loans you could qualify for before the Ivy League schools would even consider grants.
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 8:43 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73181 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:43 am to
correct
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79512 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:46 am to
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Don't kid yourself. There are "special" scholarships (regardless of need) available to black candidates and there are often bidding wars for these kids.



Sometimes it is simply in the form of getting into top schools, as opposed to getting money.

It always amuses me when a minority applicant asks for advice for law schools to apply for with a 165/3.7 and everyone says Harvard, Yale, Stanford
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40255 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:49 am to
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That is not true at all. I got into Yale and LSU. It would have cost me over a $100K to got to Yale and $0 to go to LSU
so much ignorance in this thread

again for the millionth time.

YOU DONT HAVE TO PAY TO GO TO HARVARD OR YALE IF YOU GET IN....unless your family is rich


Or white and make over $50k/year. I can tell you from experience that they have scholarships but that doesn't mean you will get one. I spent a week filling out the paperwork required for financial aid and getting "my ducks in a row" only to have them mail me a letter back saying I did not qualify for any financial aid. My family is far from rich but we are not broke either and once they find out you are white you are SOL for financial aid.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97806 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:53 am to
I can say with confidence that if one of my kids gets accepted into an ivy league school I'll figure out a way to pay for it.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79512 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 8:55 am to
Aren't both Yale and Harvard percentage based for upper-middle class families? As in, you'd pay like 7k for a family making 70k, rising to 40k for a family making 200k?

Either way, it can be affordable, but for the average family on this board that doesn't mean it'll be cheap, and certainly not free.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:06 am to
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Aren't both Yale and Harvard percentage based for upper-middle class families? As in, you'd pay like 7k for a family making 70k, rising to 40k for a family making 200k?


It is a sliding scale. And, they don't just take income into account. Other assets do factor into the equation.

I was reading an article a few months back on Harvard. It was about their endowment but it brought up the grant program for "lower income" families. There were some who wanted to end the program a few years back when the endowment took a huge hit in the market. As I recall, the new benchmark was something like $140K/year -- which kind of shocked me. Maybe that's for Boston or New York. The article did mention something about it started at something like $80K when Larry Summers first set it up in the early 00's.
Posted by Dennis ODell
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2010
375 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:11 am to
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by lsu xman
Kid probably will score 32 on the MCAT in his sleep. Being a bro, he'll be a lock for most med schools.




1) based on his SAT/ACT, 32 is not something he's going to get in his sleep. MCAT is a different type of test than the SAT/ACT. I've known high ACT people get low MCATs and vice versa.
2) 32 MCAT is not automatic acceptance into the top med schools (he is a URM though so he has that going for him).
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73181 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:14 am to
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I can say with confidence that if one of my kids gets accepted into an ivy league school I'll figure out a way to pay for it.
same here
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40255 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:19 am to
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I can say with confidence that if one of my kids gets accepted into an ivy league school I'll figure out a way to pay for it.


Doesn't mean your kid will choose to go their. My mom said she had figured out a way to pay for Yale, but I refused to make her come up with a $100K when LSU was throwing the money at me.

Plus I went on campus tour and fin aid meeting in Febuary and F**k the cold and the snow and Yale is located in ghetto.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97806 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:32 am to
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Doesn't mean your kid will choose to go their. My mom said she had figured out a way to pay for Yale, but I refused to make her come up with a $100K when LSU was throwing the money at me.



well they should both have well over 100k in their college fund when they graduate high school
Posted by Rio
Member since May 2015
286 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:58 am to
smart kid. graduate undergrad debt free and save the money for med school. fun fact, a doctor graduating from an ivy league school and a doctor graduating from med school in alabama are both called doctors
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
5843 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:58 am to
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and that's great for prescribing my 3 year old antibiotics but when I have something serious I probably won't be calling dr thibodeax


Who even cares where the doctor or lawyer went, as long as they are the best in their field in their town/city/parish/ state...

One of the best docs in my town went to the med school down in the West Indies. He admits that he was a poor undergrad and that is the only place that would take him and he busted his arse there. It's almost a marketing point for him in contrast to every other doc in town that went to med school at UAB.
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