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re: Tom Brady facing a YEAR suspension for refusal to help investigation
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:18 am to WeeWee
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:18 am to WeeWee
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If he gave an interview, but was less than truthful (i.e said he didn't know, but others said he did) or refused to answer questions than he can still face discipline. This is not a court of law case and the CBA which his union signed waived 5th amendment rights.
He is a cheater, get over it.
I'm not a pats fan. I'm talking about the weight that will be given that report when Brady appeals to the federal court after a suspension. Just like AP, Brady's lawyers will kick the shite out of this report when it is used as the basis for a suspension.
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:19 am to lsupride87
quote:Well that sucks, no point in going to court then!
No. That would be character assassination
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:19 am to tigerpimpbot
quote:How? I see no basis for Brady here. He cheated, and got caught. The report uses the language required by the NFL which was agreed upon by the players
Just like AP, Brady's lawyers will kick the shite out of this report when it is used as the basis for a suspension.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:20 am to theunknownknight
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theunknownknight
Not sure what the hell is so funny about that. Being top 2-3 at the most important position in the game pretty much by default makes you one of the best players in the game. You'd have to be a dipshit to think otherwise
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:20 am to tigerpimpbot
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So you agreed with Payton's suspension?
No, not at all, my point is that Goodell created the precedent and now its either going to be a total travesty or its going to bite him in the arse.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:21 am to lsuhunt555
quote:Or he's admitting he got it wrong before and is now going to get it correct.
No, not at all, my point is that Goodell created the precedent and now its either going to be a total travesty or its going to bite him in the arse.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:23 am to lsupride87
Because the wells report language using a "more likely than not" conclusion is based upon inferences that were based upon inferences. I personally don't think it will hold up to the scrutiny of a federal judge.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:25 am to lsupride87
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I see no basis for Brady here. He cheated, and got caught
How did he get caught? There is no evidence that Brady knew any balls were alter after the refs gave their approval.
Not a Pats fan, not a Goodell fan, butI believe that if he is suspended the NFLPA will have field day with this.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:25 am to tigerpimpbot
quote:That is the language specifically stated in the NFLs handbook that was agreed upon by the players. People need to realize this
Because the wells report language using a "more likely than not"
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:26 am to shel311
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Or he's admitting he got it wrong before and is now going to get it correct.
Which would mean that his policies are a total fricking travesty. FWIW, this is the road I fully expect his coward arse to take. Brady get 4 games and the media wont even bring up that he gave Peyton a year for less.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:26 am to oleyeller
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i want one patriot fan/brady fan to answer my question.
If the deflated balls had nothing to do with it, and deflated balls didnt matter...
WHY DID THEY DEFLATE THE BALLS? Simple question.
Seems like a silly risk to take if there was no real advantage to be gained from it.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:27 am to Street Hawk
I love when the first words of someone's link are "According to. . ."
Why not just link the original source instead of that nonsense click-bait?
Why not just link the original source instead of that nonsense click-bait?
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:27 am to TigerintheNO
quote:There isnt? Have you read the report? There is evidence that he did know
How did he get caught? There is no evidence that Brady knew any balls were alter after the refs gave their approval.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:28 am to tigerpimpbot
quote:
Because the wells report language using a "more likely than not" conclusion is based upon inferences that were based upon inferences. I personally don't think it will hold up to the scrutiny of a federal judge.
Plus, he is apparently being punished for not giving over his personal phone to a private investigator moreso than the actual deflating of balls. Atleast from the "not cooperating" part of the story
No one should have to be required to send in their personal phone to a non police investigation (of a serious crime). That's just an absurd request
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:28 am to lsuhunt555
quote:Well, they are.
Which would mean that his policies are a total fricking travesty
But I guess technically speaking either way he rules proves that, so he can't win.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:29 am to lsupride87
quote:
That is the language specifically stated in the NFLs handbook that was agreed upon by the players. People need to realize this
And wells made a conclusory opinion based upon inferences drawn from inferences. Also, he's not an independent investigator if you look at it objectively.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:29 am to wildtigercat93
quote:He wasnt required to. But unfortunately for him, when you dont it doesnt look good
No one should have to be required to send in their personal phone to a non police investigation (of a serious crime)
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:29 am to shel311
quote:
But I guess technically speaking either way he rules proves that, so he can't win.
To my point, he established the precedent lets see if he at least has the stones to stick to it.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:31 am to lsuhunt555
quote:
To my point, he established the precedent lets see if he at least has the stones to stick to it.
There are many stupid precedents that are overturned as we evolve.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:31 am to tigerpimpbot
quote:Man, they went thru the exact protocol that is agreed upon by the players, and used the exact burden of proof agreed upon by the players. Im not saying the policy doesnt suck, but this isnt going to a federal judge. If it does, Tommy will be giving up that cell phone.....
And wells made a conclusory opinion based upon inferences drawn from inferences. Also, he's not an independent investigator if you look at it objectively.
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