re: Good ways to end "Hack-a-Shaq"...

They do it because Shaq and others like him are horrible free throw shooters, even though they play basketball for a living.

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It's about a loophole in the rules that makes the game hard to watch. No fan likes it.

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doesnt bother me. its exciting at the end of games too.


if they didnt change the rule for Shaq, they arent going to do it for the 3-4 scrubs who are getting hacked now

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if they didnt change the rule for Shaq, they arent going to do it for the 3-4 scrubs who are getting hacked now

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I'd bet that a rule change will come in the near future.

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I highly doubt he anticipated teams actively trying to foul players off of the ball. I think your sport has a problem when getting penalized is the goal of your team during a play.

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You intentionally commit penalties in football when the DB fouls the receiver knowing he's going to give up a TD otherwise. Pitchers do it in baseball when they hit a batter knowing they are going to give up first base and get ejected.

Committing fouls is part of the game. Learn to make your damn foul shots.

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A football analogy that is close to the status quo in the NBA is a defense just tackling every wide receiver on a Hail Mary and the offense being forced to take the 15 yards and the game ending.

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I mean that's similar in the sense, that with the pass interference, and the foul on Curry, the game doesn't end either time. Pass interference gives you a 15 yard penalty and an untimed down. Foul on Curry leaves however many seconds he was fouled with on the clock, where he has the option of missing the second free throw, or making it and playing it out and trying to get a 3 the next time down the court if the opponent hits both free throws. I don't see what's wrong with that.

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You intentionally commit penalties in football when the DB fouls the receiver knowing he's going to give up a TD otherwise. Pitchers do it in baseball when they hit a batter knowing they are going to give up first base and get ejected.

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Sure, which is akin to fouling guys instead of an easy layup. I'm fine with that.

However, fouling a guy off of the ball is a totally different animal. If the NFL let you tackle Golden Tate on a Hail Mary and forced you to take the 15 yards rather than throwing it deep to Calvin Johnson, people would be up in arms, yet the NBA rule gets defended left and right.

The NBA allows defenses to manipulate the game by forcing the offense to take free throws rather than run an offense. I simply do not understand why someone would have a problem with allowing offenses to decline FTs and keep the ball instead. What is the problem with that?

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that with the pass interference... the game doesn't end either time

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Obviously, but in the NBA you don't get the time back, hence the reason teams foul up 3. To make the analogy similar to the NBA, you'd have to remove the untimed down condition in the NFL.

Obviously it is an extreme example, but it illustrates the point.

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That's like saying teams shouldn't be able to run the prevent defense in football to prevent a hail mary because it's more exciting if they get completes more often. Strategy is a part of the game, and you shouldn't reward a team that's losing just because you want the game to be more entertaining.

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Sigh.

I hate these dramatic cross sport analogies. How would you legislate out prevent defense in football? You'd have to make specific rules regarding alignments and coverages. Would these cause a host of other problems that could harm the sport? Likely. You can legislate out off-ball fouling in baksetball without adversely affecting the rest of the sport. THAT is why this is a good solution. All these other "similar" entertainment proposals people are throwing out there are silly because they'd (obviously!) mess up the rest of the sport. No one has suggested a single reason how this would be bad for basketball at all. Just a few arguments that amount to nothing more than "that's how we've always done it and it doesn't affect me enough to consider supporting it."

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If SA fouls DeAndre Jordan, and the Clippers choose to decline the FTs and keep the ball, what is the problem?

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The problem is that the Clippers are getting rewarded because one of their players can't do his job effectively.

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FTs were meant to penalize teams for fouls, not reward them.

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they are penalized. A player is awarded a foul.