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re: Anyone fly fish for reds?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:14 am to stewie
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:14 am to stewie
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Awesome, thanks for the heads up. I think I'm going to give it a try in the near future.
Have you tried the bonefish?
I have the non textured Hydros bonefish line on two spools. It's great for delicate presentation of small flies and reaching out past 60 ft. I just prefer the Ignitor for redfish. It loads quicker. I can throw out to 30 ft with a single back cast.
My favorites for redfish fly lines right now are
-Orvis Ignitor
-Wulff Triangle taper Bermuda shorts (this line gets a little stiff for my liking in the winter time)
-SA redfish
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:06 am to Barf
Barf here is telling much truth. I too fish for reds with a fly...use an 8 wt set up. I am currently using an Allen Kraken reel on a Temple Fork Salt water series rod.
Fishing for salt water species with the fly is quite addictive.
Fishing for salt water species with the fly is quite addictive.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:26 am to DeltaDoc
Yeah, I don't have the technique down by any means, but tossing it out there and watching bream hit topwater was pretty awesome. I can't imagine doing that for reds. I've been watching youtube tutorials all morning.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:53 am to DeltaDoc
If I ever move to a southern, coastal area I will be doing this nonstop. I'm pretty certain my steelhead setup will be more than fine for reds. Just need to buy a new spool for my reel and keep it loaded with one of the previously mentioned fly lines.
I assume you all use a high end fluorocarbon for leader and tippet? Sinking leaders?
I assume you all use a high end fluorocarbon for leader and tippet? Sinking leaders?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:32 am to AubieALUMdvm
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I assume you all use a high end fluorocarbon for leader and tippet? Sinking leaders?
Redfish aren't really too leader shy. I use a 9ft 20lb fluorocarbon tapered leader for most applications. 9ft 0x mono tapered leader for poppers. I keep a spool of 20lb flouro and 0x mono tippet material for when my leader starts to get short from fly changes. Double surgeons knot to add tippet material to the leader.
An 8wt rod is going to blow up before breaking off either of those leaders.
My friend makes his own leaders but I don't find our redfish to be picky enough for that level of dedication.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 6:40 pm to Barf
Are the clearwater and encounter reel made out of plastic?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:00 pm to sloopy
The Encounter is "composite." The Clearwater is aluminum.
I can't comment on the Encounter but I wouldn't be worried fishing slot reds with one. The 6wt I keep in my car has a Clearwater reel that has seen some pretty heavy abuse and still functions like new even though it looks like hell.
If you want big arbors and big drags you're going to have to spend $300 at minimum but It's not something you need to have to fly fish for reds in most of Louisiana.
I can't comment on the Encounter but I wouldn't be worried fishing slot reds with one. The 6wt I keep in my car has a Clearwater reel that has seen some pretty heavy abuse and still functions like new even though it looks like hell.
If you want big arbors and big drags you're going to have to spend $300 at minimum but It's not something you need to have to fly fish for reds in most of Louisiana.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:09 pm to nahtanojc
quote:wow
put a couple hundred yards
quote:Where is the red going to run off to? you arent in open water.
This will help if you end up hooking a 30lb red in the marsh
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:13 pm to CarRamrod
My line of thinking is that you want all the backing it will hold. The more backing on the reel the faster you will be able to pick up line when you need to.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:58 pm to bbvdd
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My line of thinking is that you want all the backing it will hold. The more backing on the reel the faster you will be able to pick up line when you need to.
I get what you're saying, it just isn't necessary. I've only had a hand full of reds take me into my backing. Red's just not a fast running fish. For example, my Mirage IV holds about 175 yards of 20lb dacron and out of thousands of redfish I've only had a half dozen or so take me more than a few yards into my backing.
Retrieval rate on large arbor reels won't change much with backing. Standard arbor reels are a different story.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:03 pm to Barf
I throw my 10 weight out there and just grunt them in.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:02 am to SATNIGHTS
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throw my 10 weight out there and just grunt them in.
Do that with a 5 wt...it would be much more fun.
It's nice to have the backing when a big jack cruises by and slurps up your fly...then leaves you in the dust with the reel screaming.
A likely scenario while fishing the flats.
Barf - what rod are you throwing these days?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:29 am to CarRamrod
A couple of years ago I was fishing a popper on an 7wt early in the morning for trout. Had caught half a dozen before a redzilla inhaled it. I strip set the line and the red took off. . .
I was using at most an 8lb leader- may have been less than that, and it was the first red that ever took me into my backing. I had 150yards of dacron on the reel and it took over half that on its first run. I was in the marsh, but was fishing the outer edge of a bay; it went straight for the open water. Had I not seen it take the popper, I would have thought it was a jack.
Took me over 15min to get it in and to date is my personal best red- 46" and well over 30lbs. (bottomed out my boga)
I was happy to have that 150yards of backing that day.
I was using at most an 8lb leader- may have been less than that, and it was the first red that ever took me into my backing. I had 150yards of dacron on the reel and it took over half that on its first run. I was in the marsh, but was fishing the outer edge of a bay; it went straight for the open water. Had I not seen it take the popper, I would have thought it was a jack.
Took me over 15min to get it in and to date is my personal best red- 46" and well over 30lbs. (bottomed out my boga)
I was happy to have that 150yards of backing that day.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:30 am to stewie
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Barf - what rod are you throwing these days
H2
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:42 am to VanRIch
I was debating between the Clearwater and Encounter last year as well. Let me tell you, the Clearwater is really worth the extra money. It is much lighter and doesn't wear your arm out throwing it all day.
As for reel, I first went with the Clearwater reel and it served me just fine. I recently upgraded to the Hydros because I have been chasing bigger reds with it.
Like someone said before, you really need to worry about your rod first, line second, and reel last.
As for reel, I first went with the Clearwater reel and it served me just fine. I recently upgraded to the Hydros because I have been chasing bigger reds with it.
Like someone said before, you really need to worry about your rod first, line second, and reel last.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:45 am to Barf
What sort of maintenance is required when doing the saltwater stuff? Just wash the rod and reel down with a hose? I use a lamson reel so it has the sealed conical drag to protect it. Anything special im missing?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:59 pm to AubieALUMdvm
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Just wash the rod and reel down with a hose
When I'm showering after the trip, I'll bring the reel in with me and strip the line and some of the backing off and continue the shower. After, just reel it back up and take the spool off to let it dry before putting it up.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but haven't had any issues.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:20 pm to VanRIch
While I do agree with most everything that has been posted here, there is no way I would spend hundreds of dollars on equipment for something that you don't even know if you will be interested in a year from now...
I would personally buy the 8# rod that is on sale at bass pro right now and try it out for a year or two...you can upgrade at that point if you are still interested...
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I would personally buy the 8# rod that is on sale at bass pro right now and try it out for a year or two...you can upgrade at that point if you are still interested...
LINK
Posted on 4/7/15 at 2:50 pm to Spankum
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While I do agree with most everything that has been posted here, there is no way I would spend hundreds of dollars on equipment for something that you don't even know if you will be interested in a year from now...
I would personally buy the 8# rod that is on sale at bass pro right now and try it out for a year or two...you can upgrade at that point if you are still interested...
I really hate this school of thought. I understand not wanting to spend a bunch of money but trying to learn on a junk rod with even worse fly line will not do you any good.
You want to give yourself the best chance at success. I tried to cast one of those bass pro combos one time and its comparable to bass fishing with a snoopy rod. If you buy the bass pro combo you WILL hate it if you try to use it for redfish. Pitching it around in the neighborhood pond would probably be fine but it will ruin your day in the marsh.
My advice is shop used. Look for TFO rods. You can grab a pro II for less than $100 and it's got an unlimited lifetime warranty. I occasionally see AXIOM and BVK rods in the same price range although it's less common. Used Orvis gear is a little less common but if you watch the fly fishing forums close you can grab silver label TL's for like $50. Some are even still under warranty. I just watched a TFO BVK 8wt with a Tibor backcountry wide and WF8W airflo floating line sell for $275. That's a $750 combo brand new.
Good deals are out there. Keep an eye on Stillwater Fly shop's website. They usually run deals where you can get free fly line with a rod or reel purchase. That could mean saving as much as $90
Orvis fly fishing 101 classes are free. Take the class. Cast a few rods. Avoid bass pro like the plague.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 3:27 pm to Barf
TFO BVK 8wt is 
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 3:31 pm
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