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re: Nebraska Man Offers Fracking Polluted Water To Oil & Gas Commissioners!

Posted on 3/28/15 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 4:58 pm to
I know in Louisiana the casing around the water table is like twice as thick as anywhere else, and it tapers down from there.
This post was edited on 3/28/15 at 4:59 pm
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:02 pm to
Before I click the link, is he hot like Erin brockavich?
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:03 pm to
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what an idiot. fracking is not done anywhere near water depth. 




Everyone who has said this so far fits into one of three categories:

1) Learning Disability
2) Severe lack of reading comprehension.
3) didn't watch the article or read the video
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171114 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:04 pm to
you clearly didn't watch the video cause that guy is stupid
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97815 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:11 pm to
What an idiot
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

what an idiot. fracking is not done anywhere near water depth. 




I did watch the video. One the calmer more intelligent presentations on this topic that I've seen.

Not sure what makes him an idiot?
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12581 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:23 pm to
Your surface casing cement is run back to surface.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:29 pm to
My phd dissertation was on hydraulic fracturing but I am sure that guy in overalls is an expert on the subject
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:34 pm to
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My phd dissertation was on hydraulic fracturing but I am sure that guy in overalls is an expert on the subject


What does your PhD have to do with anything?
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:36 pm to
My PhD had to do with hydraulic fracturing. I thought that was clear from my post.
Posted by SpiderY2Bannana
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
474 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 5:53 pm to
You posted a worldstarhiphop.com link dude. Really?
This post was edited on 3/28/15 at 5:54 pm
Posted by EngineerOnDemand
Member since Apr 2013
172 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:16 pm to
Petroleum Engineer. Sorry for the late response. Been working reservoir the majority of my career and analyze fields for a living.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:26 pm to
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This is true. Most hyraulic fracturing occurs at depth below 7000'. Economic water sources are only taken at depths up to 1000'. No one is drilling a drinking water well beyond 200' in most areas because of costs. Also hydraulic fractures extend a maximum of 1000' (this is VERY rare as usual vertical fracturing extends at a maximum 200') vertically due to anisotropy and natural pressure gradients. As most don't know hydraulic fracturing is just as the term suggests, fracturing with WATER. The only way a water source could be polluted by oil and gas is with a poor cement job, which is monitored by most states. In this case, hydraulic fracturing fluid is not the issue, but potential gas can creep behind the cement to infiltrate the water source. I have never seen this occur personally, but it's the only technical possibility. Most states would force the operator to do a top job if the cement bond log doesn't come out crisp.
Also, this guy is way off, surface flow and subsurface flow of water are on different wavelengths in regards to speed. You're talking real time to geologic time (6 mph vs. 6 miles per year). There is no pressure differential in the subsurface to FORCE water flow at an accelerated rate. Plus this would mean your water source was outcropping at the surface for a recharge zone. Look at your pool filters, they are sand filters. If you don't think sand is an excellent filtration system, you are moronic. That's the reason why we use sandstones as our drinking water sources.

As someone who remains open-minded to both sides but still learning, that's a pretty damn good post. It's hard to remain so on this issue because there is so much seemingly scientific disinformation on both sides, each side funding it's own scientists to say/write/discover things...
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28196 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:28 pm to
Yeah that's great and all but can you prove a negative that it doesn't affect the water table? I would rather pay more to fill up my car and for other living expenses. Plus it's icky.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 2:22 am
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22215 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

As someone who remains open-minded to both sides but still learning, that's a pretty damn good post. It's hard to remain so on this issue because there is so much seemingly scientific disinformation on both sides, each side funding it's own scientists to say/write/discover things...


Yep. "Because science says so" doesn't mean the same now as it did 15 years ago.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:35 pm to
Droppin knowledge like a boss
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:37 pm to
You have got to be trolling
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76821 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:42 pm to
So when people can light their tap water on fire they're just being dramatic?
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30627 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

what an idiot. fracking is not done anywhere near water depth.



Nebraska Oil & Gas Conservation Commission hearing on an out-of-state company's application to export its toxic fracking wastewater into Nebraska, moving 80 truckloads carrying 10,000 barrels per day of pollution destined to be dumped into a disposal well in Sioux County
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 11:45 pm to
Yes. Natural gas is found in water all the time, no where near oil and gas wells or frac jobs.
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