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re: Special Needs Student Told To Remove His Varsity Letter

Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:10 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:10 am to
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That's fricked up. I'm proud to say one of my friends with Downs manages to hold a job and live in a group home.
My two cousins do very well for themselves too
Posted by LSUTiger205
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Aug 2006
10820 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:10 am to
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A varsity letter is an achievement. That is a simple fact


No its not. I lettered as a freshman for varisty football because i was faster than a lot of others and played on kickoff/return teams. At a 6A high school.

An acheivement is winning a championship or getting a scholarship, whether its academic or athletic.

A varsity letter doesnt mean shite once you graduate.

Posted by tdog
Madison
Member since Oct 2011
343 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:11 am to
Back in my coaching days we had almost the exact situation. Had a special needs kid that wore "0". After his jr. year we gave him a letter jacket. Had a kid on the team in his grade that didn't letter, his momma pitched a damn fit. We had to take his jacket from him. So, our rule was a kid had to enter 5 varsity qtrs to letter, 1st two football games I put his arse at Super Safety! Lined him up about 40 yards behind everybody got flagged all 5 times for having 12. Didn't care, got him his jacket the second ballgame. He wore it in the 100 degree heat. Needless the say that momma was not real happy with me!
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:11 am to
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Apparently, people on TD that still have their jackets

Seems pretty obvious the ones that do.


Posted by DanW1
Member since Jan 2013
1105 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:11 am to
Typical special needs privilege...

High school is SERIOUSLY guys


ETA that's sarcasm btw. If you're upset this kid has a jacket, you are a dick.

This isn't about participation awards. It's about not being a tPOS to a special needs kid over something he's excited about and nobody else gives a shite about.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 10:19 am
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10521 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:11 am to
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But what is or isn't an achievement?


If you even have to ponder the question regarding the "level of achievement" that a varsity letter warrants, then you're going to need a lot of participation trophies in life.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 10:12 am
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81325 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:11 am to
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Once again, they should make it possible for him to get a letter. Stop being irrational and emotional and actually read our posts



Right. But the fact of the matter is they don't have a program in place for that, so it is irrelevant. Maybe they can set it up for challenged children in the future. But this particular kid in this particular situation shouldn't have to strip the piece of cloth his mom ironed on his jacket off.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7074 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71703 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:12 am to
He's a cool kid. Someone made fun of his disability, and he immediately retorted with "at least my issues are because of an extra-chromosone... you're just ugly".
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:12 am to
no emotions at all really. It's a no brainer, who gives a shite decision. Let the retarded kid feel better about himself. They give out honorary degrees don't they? degrees are a much bigger deal than a stupid letter.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14967 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:12 am to
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Projectpat
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That's right, let's focus on the real issue here - the mother of a downs syndrome kid is ignorant and lazy for wanting to do something that was going to mean the world to him.


Where did I say it was wrong of her to try and get this done? I question the process, not the motivation or impetus. Huge difference.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32558 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:12 am to
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lol at people in here acting like "the letter must be earned". It's a fricking HS varsity letter, not some prestigious rhodes-scholarship type honor.

This
Posted by JonaYolles
Member since Feb 2015
315 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:13 am to
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Means nothing, but to this kid it could mean the world



How do we know this for a fact though? Maybe it meant nothing until mom went and bought it and told her son that the letter made him even more special or whatever.

For all we know, it didn't mean jack shite to the kid. He was probably happy just being able to play for the team.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19431 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:13 am to
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So, our rule was a kid had to enter 5 varsity qtrs to letter, 1st two football games I put his arse at Super Safety! Lined him up about 40 yards behind everybody got flagged all 5 times for having 12. Didn't care, got him his jacket the second ballgame. He wore it in the 100 degree heat. Needless the say that momma was not real happy with me!


You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar
Posted by VeniVidiVici
Gaul
Member since Feb 2012
1728 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:13 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96782 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:14 am to
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This.

This is an opportunity to each ALL OF THE OTHER KIDS WHO LETTERED a lesson; rather than a chance to teach the one mentally retarded kid that he must "win to get a trophy".

While I don't necessarily agree with the "everyone gets a trophy" stuff, I also don't go full crazy on the other side of the spectrum. It isn't that black or white.
Yall would hate the Special Olympics. There are clear cut winners and losers. The kids that dont get 1-3 absolutely lose it and cry their eyes out when they dont get to stand on the podium. But you know what? When they get older, they learn and grow just like your "normal" kids. These downs kids are so much more intelligent than people give them credit for. When parents actually accept and take the kids gloves off, it is amazing how much they actually grow and better themselves. The worst thing for them is the people/parents that refuse to allow them to do this. The proper way to handle this situation was to setup a specific program for special needs kids where they still have the opportunity to "earn" their letter
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14967 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:14 am to
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Tigerfan56
quote:

If you even have to ponder the question regarding the "level of achievement" that a varsity letter warrants, then you're going to need a lot of participation trophies in life.


So you agree that all those grades you got-way before high school-meant something important. So important that you could do things like fail or pass grades, etc.?

Again, no problems with the Mom trying to go about this. I have a problem with how she went about it. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:14 am to
I wonder how many guys in this thread list their HS varsity sports on their job application?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:14 am to
that picture says a lot

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67142 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:14 am to
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Back in my coaching days we had almost the exact situation. Had a special needs kid that wore "0". After his jr. year we gave him a letter jacket. Had a kid on the team in his grade that didn't letter, his momma pitched a damn fit. We had to take his jacket from him. So, our rule was a kid had to enter 5 varsity qtrs to letter, 1st two football games I put his arse at Super Safety! Lined him up about 40 yards behind everybody got flagged all 5 times for having 12. Didn't care, got him his jacket the second ballgame. He wore it in the 100 degree heat. Needless the say that momma was not real happy with me!


That's awesome.
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