re: Official Better Call Saul - Episode 6 "Five-O"

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These are not the same, yet I do see how Mike took Jessie in towards the end to help him and the symbolism.

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yea I don't really think he "took him in" as much as it was simply Mike and Jesse gained loyalty for each other through circumstances. Mike had no use for Jesse, who was brought in as a ploy by Gus, and until Mike saved Jesse( episode where Lorenzio or whoever, the nephew of Hector opened fire with the sniper rifle on the chicken ranch) and then in Mexico when Jesse actually killed Lorenzio and made sure Mike got help for his wounds.

I'm sure Mike did want to see Jesse get out at the end, and knew as long as he was near Walter, he would probably get messed over in the end. Just like Mike did, by Walter.

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Agree. Jesse only started wanting to get out when shite started to get real and he saw how deep in he was.

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Yea at the end, he had 5 million(or at least it was owed to him) and he wanted out, same as Mike.

He finally showed a little sense at the end, when Walt/Heisenberg said "I'm not in the meth business OR the money business, I'm in the Empire business", and Jesse said "Is a meth empire really something to be that proud of?".

Just watched. Great episode. Tiny bit predictable with Mike killing the cops for killing his son, but the performance made it worth the ride.

Are we overestimating how much later seasons will be involved with characters from BB? Seems like this show could go its own way and not be relegated to a prequel. It's holding its own no doubt.

Have we seen anything regarding present day aside from the opening Cinnabon scene in the premier?

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The catch now is why is Mike still at odds with Kalees mom,

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I don't see them at odds at all.

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The catch now is why is Mike still at odds with Kalees mom,


I don't see them at odds at all.

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Yeah. I think his take on talking to her went from first not wanting to tell her anything that she could tell the police that would give them a lead on him (or also maybe that if she withheld it could get her in trouble on obstruction or some similar stuff) to realizing that she needed closure real bad.

Then he was walking the tightrope of telling her what he could to convince her her husband (and his son) was a "good cop" and strongly inferring that his killers were brought to justice without implicitly implicating himself.

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The catch now is why is Mike still at odds with Kalees mom,

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what?

the last time they interacted she put her hand on his shoulder on the couch

why do you think they are at odds?

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Wonder if Mike killed those two guys for killing his son?

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I love the writing/directing on this show. I had a sneaking feeling for a little while that maybe it was MIKE that killed his own son and that was why he was in the "drinking spiral" after his son's death. And it seemed to me like the story wanted me to think that... until Mike walks plants something in the dirty cops car (ends up being the gun, of course) and tells the dirty cops that he knows they did it.

Then I was like WHEW! Cuz we all knew Mike was dirty, but I didn't want Mike to be "knock off his own son" dirty. And the reveal at the end by Mike to his d-in-law made me feel even better.

My son loved the original BB but I only watched the occasional episode. Definitely going to go back and watch them all know. BCS has me hooked.

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then, I'm talking about in NM, you said yourself he read in the detective notes that she called them. That would be a good reason right there. They clearly aren't talking much at all when the show started, so they are both now somehow in NM and aren't actually talking much. Either he's maintaining a low profile(using his real name can't be that low) or she just won't talk to him.

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They WEREN'T talking much prior to Mike having the heart to heart from the couch. Now, it appears, that relationship gets put on some solid ground (as Mike and his granddaughter see each other regularly during the Breaking Bad years). I think they made it quite clear that Mike opening up about his son's death and the fact that he got revenge for it has ingratiated himself with his daughter-in-law again.

Here's the basic timeline...

1. Picks Mike up from train station
2. They discuss the phone call that her husband had with Mike, DIL isn't buying it. Pissed at Mike.
3. We see Mike outside of their house and the awkward stare down with DIL from previous episode
4. Mike steals cop's notebook and sees mention of Stacey calling them. She was not calling them about Mike but about the fact that she thinks her husband may have been dirty based upon the money she found.
5. They talk at the house. Mike swears his son wasn't dirty. He leaves.
6. He returns to the house and puts it all on the table for DIL to hear. She comforts him.

I would imagine that she's now all in on protecting Mike from any Philadelphia inquiries and on-board with anything Mike tells her to do.