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re: Raiders of the Lost Ark (flaws)
Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:56 am to magildachunks
Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:56 am to magildachunks
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Belloq convinces nazi leader to let him open it before presenting to hitler by saying they had to make sure it was the true Ark. And they didn't know what powers it possessed, so they shouldn't risk opening it in prescience of hitler.
in retrospect, it is too bad they didn't just wait and open it for Hitler
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Belloq convinces nazi leader to let him open it before presenting to hitler by saying they had to make sure it was the true Ark. And they didn't know what powers it possessed, so they shouldn't risk opening it in prescience of hitler.
This is clearly explained in the movie.
The only part I thought was a bit off was the sub., but I've always assumed it just never dove - no problem.
This is not the kind of movie you second-guess much anyway, it is brainless fun.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:13 pm to mizzoukills
Only thing that's ever annoyed me about the film is the massive shotgun blast sound that Jones' revolver makes when he shoots it. Sounds really stupid.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:14 pm to MadMaxwell
The sub did not dive because the ark was strapped to the top of the sub. It couldnt fit through a sub doorway of course
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:15 pm to MadMaxwell
just caught the end of lost ark. now the last crusade is on.
question. did the blonde frick indiana's dad?
question. did the blonde frick indiana's dad?
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:17 pm to Dr RC
alright it sounded like it. what a dedicated whore
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:28 pm to mizzoukills
There are no flaws.
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:33 pm to Deactived
whore? nah. girl was a straight baller.
she be like "Bond and Han Solo? Ima get dat notch girl."
she be like "Bond and Han Solo? Ima get dat notch girl."
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:50 pm to mizzoukills
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The scene shows the U-boat pull into the cave and Indiana is soaked wet as if he just hung on and held his breath for a few thousand miles.
You do know that WW2 submarines spent 90% of their time on the surface, right? If they dove, they had one of two options:
1. Run on snorkle, sucking air from the surface
2. Run on batteries, which is limited to the charge they batteries held.
Boats traveled faster on the surface.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:53 pm to Deactived
Allison doody strikes me as a girl who is a whore in real life
Posted on 3/5/15 at 1:57 pm to mizzoukills
quote:I passionately kiss and have sex in my sleep. dead serious.
One moment they are passionately kissing, the next he's snoring. The time from kissing to snoring is about 3 seconds.
WTF?
Posted on 3/5/15 at 2:18 pm to mizzoukills
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how the hell does he survive the underwater trip from the Atlantic to the Mediterranean
He hid in the refrigerator on the ship.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 2:29 pm to elprez00
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You do know that WW2 submarines spent 90% of their time on the surface, right? If they dove, they had one of two options:
1. Run on snorkle, sucking air from the surface
2. Run on batteries, which is limited to the charge they batteries held.
Boats traveled faster on the surface.
yep that's a good start, the Germans captured a Dutch sub with an experimental snorkel on it, and advanced the design, by WW2 they had the best snorkel tech. Not only did Uboats travel faster on the surface, they could of course run w/ diesels and charge their batteries at the same time.
Also at night time it was generally SAFER, for them at the surface (snorkel depth) since allied ships often had sonar that could detect them well submerged under water but running just at the surface neither sonar or radar could spot them without being very close.
As for the movie, I thought their ship left from Cairo and they (somehow) caught the sub shortly after, so I don't see how the Atlantic was involved.
At that time the British navy was widely scattered around the Atlantic and the Indian ocean guarding convoys and providing defense from German war ships docked on the French coast. Recall that when the Bismark broke out they(Admiralty) had to recall ships from numerous places to have the ability to stop it.
The Brits where getting clobbered in North Africa by Rommel and having a bad go of it trying to hold the Greek islands, I believe the U-boat sailed for Italy or Syria, not sure, but also there was relatively no allied air cover over the Mediterranean at that time, so the Uboats would have had little reason to fear allied air attacks just then.
While swimming from a ship to a moving Uboat is completely redonkulous,, given the numerous giant round boulder traps and other silliness, that particular issue is hardly further fetched than the rest of the movie.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 2:30 pm to The Pirate King
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Allison doody strikes me as a girl who is a whore in real life
Still
Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:00 pm to Jagd Tiger
quote:
At that time the British navy was widely scattered around the Atlantic and the Indian ocean guarding convoys and providing defense from German war ships docked on the French coast. Recall that when the Bismark broke out they(Admiralty) had to recall ships from numerous places to have the ability to stop it.
The Brits where getting clobbered in North Africa by Rommel and having a bad go of it trying to hold the Greek islands, I believe the U-boat sailed for Italy or Syria, not sure, but also there was relatively no allied air cover over the Mediterranean at that time, so the Uboats would have had little reason to fear allied air attacks just then.
Raiders of the Lost Ark was set in 1936 so I doubt the Brits would have even really been looking for a random German sub at that time.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:03 pm to mizzoukills
Flaws. His whole adventure was pointless. The same thing would have happened to the Nazi's even if he didn't do a damn thing. Who knows without his meddling they may have taken the arc to Hitler, and he would have died also.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:08 pm to crash1211
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Flaws. His whole adventure was pointless. The same thing would have happened to the Nazi's even if he didn't do a damn thing. Who knows without his meddling they may have taken the arc to Hitler, and he would have died also.
what's flawed is this analysis. It was Jones that found the map room and ultimately the Ark. Also, no one knew that what would happen opening the Ark, that's called 20/20 hindsight. You could say he failed, since he found the Ark but the Nazi's took it, but to say it was "pointless" with in the story is just hipster nonsense.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
This is a public service announcement
Don't make your self look like a dipshit by using the word "hipster" as some sort of catch all to try and bolster your argument.
and PS
Last Crusade was pointless too b/c the Grail would never have been able to leave. Same for for Crystal Skull. Whoever found the aliens would have been smoked regardless.
The only movie where Indy actually stops shite from going down is Temple of Doom.
Don't make your self look like a dipshit by using the word "hipster" as some sort of catch all to try and bolster your argument.
and PS
Last Crusade was pointless too b/c the Grail would never have been able to leave. Same for for Crystal Skull. Whoever found the aliens would have been smoked regardless.
The only movie where Indy actually stops shite from going down is Temple of Doom.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:26 pm to H-Town Tiger
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It was Jones that found the map room and ultimately the Ark.
I think people are forgetting about one of the common conflicts in these movies: Indiana vs. himself.
Once Indy realized they were looking in the wrong spot, he should have let them be. There is a good chance the Nazis would never have found it; however, Indy's personal NEED/DRIVE to find the artifact eventually leading to the Nazi's obtaining the Ark. So, Indy's action are extremely necessary for the 2nd half of the story to occur.
Also, this same conflict comes to light at the end when he wants to see what is inside the arc, but realizes the ramifications (juxtaposed to the Nazis). He overcomes his need and therefore saves himself and that bitch.
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