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How bad can it possibly be? How can someone with their whole life ahead of them
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:11 pm
think killing themselves is ok? It's not ok. For fricks sake. Why would someone cause everyone around them this much heartache?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:12 pm to ReauxlTide222
Until you are in their shoes, you will never understand.
They are hurting worse inside more than the ones they leave behind.
They are hurting worse inside more than the ones they leave behind.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:12 pm to ReauxlTide222
because to them, it's the only way out from the intense pain and suffering they're going through.
I know it's hard as a loved one to deal with, but you don't kill yourself because you think everyone loves you and your life is great.
I know it's hard as a loved one to deal with, but you don't kill yourself because you think everyone loves you and your life is great.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
Your post is detailed and desriptive. I really like how easy it is to weigh in on the subject matter because I feel knowledgeable about your scenario.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:17 pm to ReauxlTide222
I try not to judge people, especially those no longer around to defend their position.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:19 pm to ReauxlTide222
I'd kill myself but I don't want to go to hell
So ill just go through life being miserable
So ill just go through life being miserable
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:21 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Why would someone cause everyone around them this much heartache?
Mental illness is a tough, tough battle. They didn't do it to hurt others. They did it to end their own hurt.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:22 pm to ReauxlTide222
Sometimes it is physiological with imbalance in their mind. Deficiencies or whatnot that people that do not have these issues wouldn't understand...I don't know that feels like and I am grateful, but I never feel anger towards someone who does. I feel sorry for them.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:23 pm to ReauxlTide222
I'm sorry for your loss. Chin up.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
My father told me a long time ago that taking your own life is the most selfish and cowardly thing a man can ever do. Sometimes this life is hard but there is always someone out there that has it harder.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
It is the most selfish act imaginable.
They choose to end their own personal suffering while simultaneously causing anguish and despair in countless others.
The only ethical difficulty would be if they had a severe progressive terminal illness. That has some merit although I still disagree with suicide.
Spare us all the "what about how they feel?" Your feelings are just that. Feelings. Not reality. Not facts. Just emotional underpinnings swept away with human sentiment.
Have courage. Have character. Chose to live and to be a blessing to others.
They choose to end their own personal suffering while simultaneously causing anguish and despair in countless others.
The only ethical difficulty would be if they had a severe progressive terminal illness. That has some merit although I still disagree with suicide.
Spare us all the "what about how they feel?" Your feelings are just that. Feelings. Not reality. Not facts. Just emotional underpinnings swept away with human sentiment.
Have courage. Have character. Chose to live and to be a blessing to others.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:32 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
How can someone with their whole life ahead of them think killing themselves is ok?
because they know they have their entire life ahead of them, and they hate their life
quote:
Why would someone cause everyone around them this much heartache?
To end their own heartache
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
What gives you the right to tell others what they do with their own lives? Unless, of course, you're starting to understand that an individual's actions have consequences for other people.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:37 pm to ReauxlTide222
I think the pain is unbearable, so much hurt that you can't see beyond it. I think when a person reaches this point they are mentally ill. No one in there right mind would hurt those that they love or those of those who love them.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:38 pm to ReauxlTide222
Sorry for your loss. They probably don't think it's ok, but more think that the pain they are feeling, or the loneliness or despair cannot be overcome and haven't in themselves to seek out help or feel they have anyone to turn to. One never knows what goes through the mind of others. Especially if they don't want it known. They'll put on a happy face and those around them will be blind to the pain they are experiencing within.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:47 pm to ReauxlTide222
Cause you get tired of the never ending bull shite and disappointment and this solves the problem.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:53 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Why would someone cause everyone around them this much heartache?
They aren't thinking of others, they just want their pain to end. It fricking sucks, but I wouldn't want to live everyday battling that deep depression and feeling helpless. And as much as it does suck right now eventually it does get better.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 6:55 pm to ReauxlTide222
I don't understand why it's so hard for some people to conceive that their way of life, thinking, and seeing the world isn't the same as the 6 billion other people on this planet. People experience life differently, whether it's because of experiences, culture, chemicals in the brain, etc. People from Alabama seem to have a particularly difficult time grasping this.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 7:02 pm to ReauxlTide222
They don't think logically as you do. It's just not as simple as saying they are selfish for the pain they are inflicting on others. When someone is in enough pain or a state that would cause that person to take his or her own life, they aren't able to process the pain of others. I think many believe that if they are gone, they will not give more pain to others.
It's a very difficult concept to understand or even accept. Every case certainly isn't the same. Take a child, for example, who commits suicide. Would you call a 15 year old selfish? Do you think because someone is an adult, they are automatically selfish? I'm not asking you specifically, by the way.
A chemical imbalance, for example, can do a mean job on a person. I have a relative who was terribly depressed many years ago. She had minor children and she attempted to take her own life via pills, but fortunately, she was found in time to save her life. She went through a lot of testing, counseling and guilt, of course. She had a chemical imbalance, clinical depression and it took a lot of tinkering to get her on meds so that she could live a pretty normal happy life. Even over time, the body changed and her meds had to be adjusted.There were plenty of very difficult times and she felt awful that people were having to help her so much financially and otherwise, to get through it. That's what family does, though. It's a constant uphill battle for her to continue to live a very happy life. She's got some big bumps in the road, but she is some grateful that she was saved for whatever reason. She loves her life and is very very happy with the exception of times that require changes. She's got a lot of support, though, and family who know what to look for.
Anyway, like I said, it's not usually simple and it's not usually selfish. It usually results from indescribable pain and illness. Every case is different.
It's a very difficult concept to understand or even accept. Every case certainly isn't the same. Take a child, for example, who commits suicide. Would you call a 15 year old selfish? Do you think because someone is an adult, they are automatically selfish? I'm not asking you specifically, by the way.
A chemical imbalance, for example, can do a mean job on a person. I have a relative who was terribly depressed many years ago. She had minor children and she attempted to take her own life via pills, but fortunately, she was found in time to save her life. She went through a lot of testing, counseling and guilt, of course. She had a chemical imbalance, clinical depression and it took a lot of tinkering to get her on meds so that she could live a pretty normal happy life. Even over time, the body changed and her meds had to be adjusted.There were plenty of very difficult times and she felt awful that people were having to help her so much financially and otherwise, to get through it. That's what family does, though. It's a constant uphill battle for her to continue to live a very happy life. She's got some big bumps in the road, but she is some grateful that she was saved for whatever reason. She loves her life and is very very happy with the exception of times that require changes. She's got a lot of support, though, and family who know what to look for.
Anyway, like I said, it's not usually simple and it's not usually selfish. It usually results from indescribable pain and illness. Every case is different.
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