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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:04 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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had an all news station on
I'll bet that the all news station was 1010 WINS AM radio station in NYC, am I right, junior?
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:06 pm to LSUTygerFan
Not going to read through 9 pages, but I read that the capsule the astronauts were in actually survived the blast and the crew actually plummeted to death while still alive and trying to pull the parachutes on the capsule.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:12 pm to Rhino5
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Not going to read through 9 pages, but I read that the capsule the astronauts were in actually survived the blast and the crew actually plummeted to death while still alive and trying to pull the parachutes on the capsule.
No way to tell how long they survived, but the emergency gear had been opened and activated.
However, it's also possible that the G-forces from the freefall knocked them unconscious.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:16 pm to Rhino5
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Not going to read through 9 pages,
You should scan them because there's some good stuff and good stories in this thread from folks who worked for NASA.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:20 pm to Bestbank Tiger
I heard that as well. Was the capsule damaged or compromised in any way? G-force plus pressure loss? I assume throughout launch they are fed oxygen through suit. I would hope they passed out. That's a long free fall.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:21 pm to Gris Gris
Will do. Trying to avoid repeating a story. I believe they found all members in the capsule in the sea. I'm speaking from pure memory though.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:26 pm to Rhino5
I imagine there is full telemetry records of the disaster and a voice recorder. We will probably never hear or know. As it should be.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:32 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Most likely. I watched a documentary on life board the International Space station. Deployment was 1 year, astronauts must work out 2 hours a day, all bowel movements, ejaculations, heart rates, blood pressure, language, etc. were all tracked and written down for monitoring.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:35 pm to Rhino5
I was living in Aspen and worked at a health club. I was on an exercise bike with Goldie Hawn riding next to me and we watched it launch on the tv mounted above the bikes. I remember she was reading an article about skiing while pregnant and commented on it as the launch started. Like everyone else we just stopped and watched in complete shock.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:40 pm to LSUTygerFan
I was in Disney World that day. I was 5 months old, so I don't remember shite.
My dad still talks about it, you could very clearly see the vapor trail going up from Orlando. The rocket went up, then he heard people gathered in one of the restaurants going nuts, "It blew up!"
My dad still talks about it, you could very clearly see the vapor trail going up from Orlando. The rocket went up, then he heard people gathered in one of the restaurants going nuts, "It blew up!"
Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:42 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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I heard that as well. Was the capsule damaged or compromised in any way? G-force plus pressure loss? I assume throughout launch they are fed oxygen through suit. I would hope they passed out. That's a long free fall.
Don't know. I wouldn't think they would have been fed extra oxygen during launch because in a normal launch they wouldn't need it. The suits would be pressurized for spacewalks, but that's because the boiling point of water is less than human body temperature over 65,000 feet, and the water in their tissues would boil.
If the capsule depressurized they passed out almost immediately (at 40,000 feet you have only 6 seconds of useful consciousness before it becomes a Bo Rein/Payne Stewart scenario).
I don't know if they would have regained consciousness at 5000-10000 feet but by that point it would be too late to react.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:00 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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I heard that as well. Was the capsule damaged or compromised in any way? G-force plus pressure loss? I assume throughout launch they are fed oxygen through suit. I would hope they passed out. That's a long free fall.
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Don't know. I wouldn't think they would have been fed extra oxygen during launch because in a normal launch they wouldn't need it.
Launch operations is not my field of expertise, but these are my thoughts on the various comments made in the preceding posts.
The g-forces the crew cabin received during the explosion was probably not too much. The whole vehicle just came apart. Unless there were some rapid rotation associate with the breakup there would have been no significantly increased g-forces involved. It has been established that several astronauts survived long enough to reconfigure switches in the cabin trying to re-establish electrical power.
They were accelerating at several g's when the breakup occurred - the "go for throttle up' occurs when the atmospheric density is thin enough that the main engine can be increased to full power. Up to that point, the engines were throttled down to prevent over-stressing the structure due to atmospheric drag.
The interior of the crew cabin was close to normal air mixture - ever since the Apollo 1 fire, NASA went away from pure oxygen atmosphere in the crew compartments.
The SRBs were still attached when the explosion occurred. As the external tank exploded they were set free and the Range Safety Officer destroyed them within a few seconds to prevent them from reaching an inhabited area. They were normally parachuted back into the ocean after they burned out to be retrieved and re-fitted.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:12 pm to ChineseBandit58
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The interior of the crew cabin was close to normal air mixture - ever since the Apollo 1 fire, NASA went away from pure oxygen atmosphere in the crew compartments.
I will add that up to this point because of the crew cabin being at close to normal air pressure and mixture, the flight crews wore only the blue nomex flight suits with a crash helmet. When flight activity resumed after the accident investigation, the crews were required to wear the orange pressure suits for launch and reentry, and a emergency egress system was added so the crew had some chance of doing a high altitude "bail-out" if needed.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:42 pm to EA6B
I turned 5 that day. My mom had it on the TV. She turned it off quick. One of my earliest memories.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:20 am to LSUTygerFan
I was at LSU, skipping class and watching the soaps when it was breaking news. Such a sad day
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:32 am to AngryBeavers
Crazy that they were alive all the way down.
I remember watching John Glenn go into space on tv at school.
I remember watching John Glenn go into space on tv at school.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:30 am to White Roach
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The "Japanese" guy was from Hawaii and a LTC in the USAF. The Challenger mission was only going to be his second time in space.
His name was Ellison Onizuka. Though he was born in Hawaii, he was of Japanese ancestry. Ironically, I worked at Sunnyvale AFS from 1981 - 1983. It would be renamed after him right after the Challenger disaster. While we worked primarily in satellite tracking and interface, we sometimes did data support for Shuttle crews during their missions. Later on, I would be assigned to Edwards AFB and would often watch Shuttle landings there. It just so happened that 2 friends from Edwards were flying in to New Orleans that very day to spend Mardi Gras with me and to see the city. (I had been discharged just a couple of months earlier.) I watched the launch / explosion on TV just a few minutes before going to the airport to greet them. As there were no smart phones, the internet and all yet in 1986, they had not heard of what happened when they landed, so I ended up breaking the news to them.
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:10 am to LSUTygerFan
1st grade, 6 years old. Our class was watching it on tv. Still remember that vividly.
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